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Watch what you read en route to the US!

An interesting read(sic) from MSNBC about people reading aviation manuals onboard HERE :rolleyes:

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By: murph - 9th May 2006 at 11:10

OK, well after your trip to London for the interview, you should be OK then! Best wishes for your training – an intensive course is tremendous fun but very hard work, definitely not a holiday. Fly with United, keep the books in your bags, and listen to live ATC on channel 9 to get you in the mood instead! 🙂

Andy

Best (cheapest) I’ve found has been with Continental…including 2 a/c changes on the way back :D.

4 hour wait in Newark on the way out though :eek:.

Still not booked it, and the prices are over £500, hoping to get the green light from the folks this weekend to go in the first week of July. Gives me a month at home to work/study.

I’ll take my uni notes with me, chances are I’m going to have to re-sit this Control & Instrumentation theory exam. Why couldn’t it be about more practical stuff (cockpit systems overviews, rather than the inner workings of control system theory 🙁 )

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By: Skymonster - 9th May 2006 at 11:02

OK, well after your trip to London for the interview, you should be OK then! Best wishes for your training – an intensive course is tremendous fun but very hard work, definitely not a holiday. Fly with United, keep the books in your bags, and listen to live ATC on channel 9 to get you in the mood instead! 🙂

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By: murph - 9th May 2006 at 10:53

Booking with Orlando Flight training so sorting out the M1 visa in all the appropriate correct and most improtantly, legal manners but I guess I shall leave the flying books in my suitcase :(.

Ah well, will just have to count waves from 35,000ft instead 😀

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By: Skymonster - 9th May 2006 at 10:33

I’m off to Florida (hopefully) in the summer to get my PPL done, does this mean I can’t read the manuals I have to learn on the flight over?

I accept that in your case it would probably be totally innocent and a reasonable thing to do, but I think that would be a very foolish thing to do in the current climate of paranoia, even if you travel on a UK carrier.

Just gotta wait until I have to explain to Immigration why I’m in the country! Uhh…im here to learn to fly, then leave again.

There will be no problem with US immigration as long as you have the prerequisite visa before you go – it is explaining why you want to go to the US embassy in the UK in order to get the visa that is more of a challenge these days. If you go without the appropriate visa, then (a) there are very few flight schools in the US that will break the law and train you now anyway and (b) you won’t be explaining anything to US immigration, you’ll be on the next plane back home and won’t be allowed into the US again.

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By: Ren Frew - 9th May 2006 at 08:12

I once sat in the Aer Lingus departure lounge at GLA (post 9/11) next to a fellow of Asian appearance who was reading an Airbus engineering manual of some sorts ? Needless to say I didn’t run round the room screaming “HIJACK !!!”

What upset me more was the somewhat heavy handed, suspicious treatment given to me by certain US customs officials at DUB whilst sitting in the “US” departure lounge awaiting my connection to LAX.

A friend was almost denied access to the flight for having a quick fag prior to boarding (yes he did check for no smoking signs and there was an ashtray in the room).

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By: kevinwm - 9th May 2006 at 08:03

Hi,

As an American I am TOTALLY AMAZED! Something is really wrong with this country. The Bush government keeps preaching fear. This is the result. The entire thing is PATHETIC! Why in Gods name would anyone come to this country?

Bill

This is the sort of thing that has put me of going to the States for a holiday ,I now look to the East for my holidays

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By: murph - 9th May 2006 at 07:31

Just gotta wait until I have to explain to Immigration why I’m in the country!

Uhh…im here to learn to fly, then leave again.

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By: bkonner - 9th May 2006 at 01:39

Hi,

As an American I am TOTALLY AMAZED! Something is really wrong with this country. The Bush government keeps preaching fear. This is the result. The entire thing is PATHETIC! Why in Gods name would anyone come to this country?

Bill

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By: HP81 - 8th May 2006 at 16:55

I once spent an entire flight to the US revising for my A & P (airframe & powerplant) licence. Though it was long before all this craziness & a BA flight.

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By: murph - 8th May 2006 at 10:26

Does make me wonder.

I’m off to Florida (hopefully) in the summer to get my PPL done, does this mean I can’t read the manuals I have to learn on the flight over?

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By: PMN - 8th May 2006 at 09:47

Amazing. Just amazing, and very sad at the same time. I find it quite comical in a way these passengers were simply reading an aviation related manual, and in the report linked above they have to include the quote “the cockpit was not breached”. Is there really any need to make this total non-incident sound so dramatic? I’m slowly developing an intense dislike of the way the US handle their air travel security. The more I hear, the more sad the situation seems to get. Anyway, enough complaining for now!

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By: Papa Lima - 8th May 2006 at 08:37

According to PPrune they had been on a helicopter training course and were on their way home – perfectly innocent and caught up in paranoid American security.

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