August 2, 2006 at 4:59 pm
Got this pic from Aicraft Resource Center (thanks miduppergunner, whatever your name is)
It’s criminal to have complete wings in this condition gathering dust in a museum instead of making a third intact Wellington for the UK. A missed opportunity.
Cees
By: cdp206 - 5th August 2006 at 08:55
Sorry for being a pedant cdp206, but the throttle box in your photos is not from a Wellington.
It looks post war to me.
Excuse – I didn’t know better! Thanks for pointing it out though. At the time though it was lumped together with all of the other Wellington parts in Nissen hut where it was bing displayed. It’s not a good photo anyway!
Chris
By: 682al - 4th August 2006 at 22:54
Sorry for being a pedant cdp206, but the throttle box in your photos is not from a Wellington.
It looks post war to me.
By: cdp206 - 4th August 2006 at 22:38
Yes, and when the bog was drained in the seventies the wreck was found and the ghost of one of the pilot’s dissapeared. Indeed a nice story but it would have been a textbook landing if the aircraft had come down in a peat bog with all fabric intact :rolleyes:
Folklore
Cees
I’m sure this story is bound to be recounted in one of the ‘Ghost Stations’ series of books. Good folklore and I’m sure these will be perpetuated down the ages long after we’re all gone!
Still don’t think there’s any chance of L7775’s bits being reunited though. If I had the resources I’d suggest it, but I don’t before anyone tells me to put my money where my mouth is! At least the wings are under cover now at EK. The last time we were there, the Hampden was looking very good. No photos this year though, although we’ll be going again at some point (probably August Bank Holiday) so I’ll try and grab some then.
Chris
By: HP57 - 4th August 2006 at 20:47
Alledgedly near Lindholme, on Thorne Moor. Spooky! 😮
Chris
Yes, and when the bog was drained in the seventies the wreck was found and the ghost of one of the pilot’s dissapeared. Indeed a nice story but it would have been a textbook landing if the aircraft had come down in a peat bog with all fabric intact :rolleyes:
Folklore
Cees
By: Pete Truman - 4th August 2006 at 18:08
The T-10 Wellington in Hendon was flown in the ‘Dambusters’ film, was this the last time that a Wellington ever flew and what happened to it after that, was it lurking somewhere in an airworthy condition for years or what. What sort of state is it in now, would it be possible to get the thing flying quite easily, possibly not, and anyway quite acceptably so, Hendon wouldn’t swap one of their flyable gems for a composite example, whatever the quality, would they………………?
By: cdp206 - 4th August 2006 at 17:57
LOL!
There is a story, which may be just a rural myth, of an aircraft, allegedly a Wimpey which crashed into a bog near an airfield in Yorkshire during the war. Every so often bog gasses would cause the aircraft to rise to the surface, emit loud parping noises and then sink again.
My suspicion is it’s a nice story.
Alledgedly near Lindholme, on Thorne Moor. Spooky! 😮
Chris
By: DaveF68 - 4th August 2006 at 17:41
Errr… What exactly has the bog monster got to do with Wellingtons?
http://www.prankplace.com/toiletmonster.htm
Adrian
LOL!
There is a story, which may be just a rural myth, of an aircraft, allegedly a Wimpey which crashed into a bog near an airfield in Yorkshire during the war. Every so often bog gasses would cause the aircraft to rise to the surface, emit loud parping noises and then sink again.
My suspicion is it’s a nice story.
By: TEXANTOMCAT - 4th August 2006 at 16:22
IIRC there was a plan to bring the various parts together – Mark Evans of MWPS – has a substantial collection of bits – though I last saw him prior to his recovery from Scotland – I seem to remember that several of the groups did not see ‘eye to eye’ about ownership of the airframe, management etc – which of course would be a huge undertaking anyway
Stuart – I know Ken has a front Wimpey turret (fully restored I’ve seen it and it is AMAZING) and the very front of the wimpey – ie the curved fairing, but not the underbelly B/A window etc –
Its a great idea to think that all the parts could be unified to form one aeroplane but sadly I dont think its to be…
TT
there was/is a pretty intact wimpey on the Pembrey bombing ranges I know cos I dug it! both engines were recovered C/O Seaking a few years ago IIRC both nacelles were there c/w undercart and remains of wings. We rescued the tail section which included the turret ring, but not the turret – the rest as far as I know is still there – saltwater and vicious tide rates didnt help and it was impossible to get a footing for a digger or even an ‘a’ frame to lift stuff out – plus the suction was incredible – hence the whirlybird.
The parts were ‘kept’ by an individual who subsequently left the group I have no idea where they are now – one recovered engine was left as a memorial to Fred, the other taken by the group. Last time i saw it it was on a farm and had the worm big time- saltwater y’see.
Plus I nearly died helping bring down two tailplanes from a Wimpey off Carreg Goch/the Black Mountain in the Brecons, but that as they say is another story!
TT
By: HP57 - 4th August 2006 at 14:47
Mind you, at least it’s in piece now. Be nice to have it reunited with the rest of it though.
Chris
It is but should be brough inside at least. Imagine the various bits and pieces brought together with the assistance of Brooklands. Oh if only.
Cees
By: cdp206 - 4th August 2006 at 14:43
As the tailsection is looking now in the garden at Moreton-in-the-marsh
Cees
Mind you, at least it’s in one piece now. Be nice to have it reunited with the rest of it though.
Chris
By: Peter - 4th August 2006 at 14:37
What a shame. Makes you wonder if it had been better off left on the moor?
By: cdp206 - 4th August 2006 at 14:36
As the tailsection is looking now in the garden at Moreton-in-the-marsh
Cees
Oh my God! What’s it doing in a garden! I knew L7775 had been split up but, well……..
It did have so much potential, didn’t it? I wonder what did happen to that rear turret after ‘word’ were alledgedly had. At the time, it looked marvelous and was largely well looked after. Luckily, I wan’t privvy the internal ‘politics’. You’re right HP, it does happen all too often much to detriment of the project. Everyone looses out, including the poor airframe. Glad you liked the photos though.
Chris
By: HP57 - 4th August 2006 at 14:31
As the tailsection is looking now in the garden at Moreton-in-the-marsh
Cees
By: HP57 - 4th August 2006 at 14:14
Chris,
Thanks very much. I certainly enjoyed these photo’s. Pity that the sections were scattered arount the UK after personal differences within the organisation. It happens all too often unfortunately. What a beautiful wereck, some restored aircraft on display have started with much less.
Cees
By: cdp206 - 4th August 2006 at 13:47
Wellington at Firbeck
As promised in my previous post (#15), I’ve found the photos of the wings and other parts of the Wellington now at EK. It’s Wellington 1A L7775 (20 OTU), which crashed on 23 October 1940 near Braemar, Scotland. The aircraft was recovered in 1982. These photos I took of it date from 1988 and 1989, whilst it was on display at the South Yorkshire Avaition Society Museum at Firbeck, near Maltby. I won’t say ‘enjoy’, given the subject of another thread which is currently running!
Chris
By: HP57 - 4th August 2006 at 13:37
There is so much useful material still around in the UK
682Al must recognize the hooplike item :rolleyes:
Letting it corrode away isn’t the answer. Erect a memorial or plaque and preserve the aircraft remains or use them in a restoration project.
Cheers
Cees
By: Airfixtwin - 4th August 2006 at 00:29
Wimpy picture
4th from the left in the centre row.
He was an electrician, and once told me a story about how he’d had to clean a dead seagull of the back of the control panel. The poor bird had gone straight through the plexiglass nose apparently!
Postwar he moved to Canada and worked for Avro.
By: Moggy C - 4th August 2006 at 00:20
If only because I have a picture of my late Uncle standing in front of one at Chivenor.( and I’ve a soft spot for CC)
Great picture. Which is your uncle?
Moggy
By: Airfixtwin - 4th August 2006 at 00:07
Costal Command Wimpy
Personally I’d love to see a Wellington in the White Coastal Command scheme. If only because I have a picture of my late Uncle standing in front of one at Chivenor.( and I’ve a soft spot for CC)
See attached photo,Sorry for the poor condition of the picture but it was folded up in 1945. Thought I’d share it with the world anyway.
Anyhow, if all the major elements are there, why shouldn’t a composite aircraft be assembled.
Though ultimately it’s down to the individual groups who own them..
By: 682al - 4th August 2006 at 00:06
Hi Elliott,
Yes, a number came out of the famous yard at Sprotborough in the early ’80s.
Still got mine. It’ll come in handy some day!