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What is this aircaft, and is this a mk1 nose section for the blenhiem?

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By: TerryP - 10th May 2014 at 21:34

Found them!
Apparently they are “Schutzdeckel”. I guess that means muzzle plug!

Thank you everyone.

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By: Denis - 10th May 2014 at 20:56

An armourer friend of mine tells me they are certainly muzzle plugs.

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By: TerryP - 10th May 2014 at 20:20

Thank you all for the suggestions. Their dimensions tend to support the muzzle plug idea. Not much help since it hasn’t still got its cannons! But that may be the answer.

Their dimensions can be seen in the pictures.

Anybody got any more ideas, please? Or actually know?

Many thanks.

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By: smirky - 9th May 2014 at 14:28

They look nicely made, could they be for harmonising the guns?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141212112910

Wouldn’t normally take them with you but the Swiss probably operated in a more dispersed way.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 9th May 2014 at 13:33

Might they be devices/interlocks for making the guns safe?

Four plugs/four guns.

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By: Adrian Barrell - 9th May 2014 at 12:26

Muzzle plugs?

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By: Carpetbagger - 9th May 2014 at 12:22

Stowage for spare starter cartridges?

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By: D1566 - 26th April 2013 at 02:13

The reason I thought it was en route to Burtonwood because it seems to have been taken in north Liverpool rather than the south end.
The source is here: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=375696072518659&set=a.375695772518689.93635.117209091700693&type=3&theater

Could have been en route to either Burscough (HMS Ringtail) or, less likely, Stretton (HMS Blackcap)

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By: Scouse - 26th April 2013 at 00:49

Yes, it’s a new one to me, and I’ve seen all the standard pics of P-51s, P-47s, P-61s, P-38s etc being towed through the streets of Liverpool. The reason I thought it was en route to Burtonwood because it seems to have been taken in north Liverpool rather than the south end.
The source is here: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=375696072518659&set=a.375695772518689.93635.117209091700693&type=3&theater

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By: sycamore - 25th April 2013 at 22:08

What are these

Avengers,as the u/c folds outwards,and is `splayed` outwards when down;also wing-tips are secured to the tailplane by cables when there is no hyd pressure,to prevent `droop`,and you can see the deflection on the tailplane..
ed; Hellcats u/c retract back and turn..

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By: Atcham Tower - 25th April 2013 at 21:04

Yes, they are FAA Avengers almost certainly going to Speke rather than Burtonwood. This shot is new to me at least although I have seen a similar one from IWM. Which site did you find it on, Scouse?

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By: Archer - 25th April 2013 at 14:36

That type of wing fold was used on Hellcats, Wildcats and Avengers (among others). I would guess that these are Avengers. There is a long glasshouse with what appears to be a turret at the end of it.

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By: pogno - 5th November 2009 at 10:15

Incidentaly production Trident foreward fuselages as well as doors and other parts were built in the old Airspeed factory at Portsmouth airport.

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By: pagen01 - 5th November 2009 at 08:33

Definately Tudors, and going from the nose shape I would say the Avro 688 (Tudor I etc) version.

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By: OHOPE - 5th November 2009 at 06:03

I would go with the Tudor too , the atmosphere is older than Trident I think .

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By: Scouse - 4th November 2009 at 23:58

Just had look at some Tudor pictures on t’internet, and you might be right. Anyone else got any thoughts?

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By: AdlerTag - 4th November 2009 at 23:31

Avro Tudor perhaps? Certainly not Trident, they had two small clear panels in the roof above the pilot and co-pilot.

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By: KIGAS - 3rd April 2005 at 08:13

This is the MkI nose that was converted to a car By Ralp Nelson after WWII and drove round Bristol for a number of years, the tax disc still exists, he fortunately kept most every part that he cut off and these are with the nose section. The nose was part of the Blenheim MkI built by AVRO (Avros manufacturing plate still on the nose) and served as a night fighter during the BoB and was struck off charge Dec 1940

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By: Flood - 2nd April 2005 at 20:07

Heres a bit of the history of these former Swedish Fireflies, about their returning to Britain, anyway.
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=21166

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By: Colin Wingrave - 2nd April 2005 at 18:59

deffo MkI nose/cockpit section which I think was fitted at some point to a car chassie

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