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What defines a fly-in…?

A query for those in the know: what defines a fly-in and when does a fly-in become an airshow? Also, what limitations and obligations are there in staging an fly-in? Are the public allowed to attend (in the same way as an airshow)? Apart from arriving and departing are aircraft allowed to conduct flypasts, etc?

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By: Firebex - 15th June 2010 at 15:04

For some events, I know planning permission is required by local councils.

Martin

Oh yes the old purple plan !!!.regardless if you have CAA permission it dont mean you can go ahead and hold your little or large event as you may find all sorts of very official looking and some uniformed individuals knocking on your door asking why have you not consulted us ???.And then telling you all your planning is for nought as you aint doing it there and then or even at all.

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By: T6flyer - 15th June 2010 at 13:20

For some events, I know planning permission is required by local councils.

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By: Firebex - 13th June 2010 at 16:12

CAP403

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP403.PDF

Many thanks with all the paperwork and CAPs etc over time the brain gets a bit fuddled with it all.Yes I have been in the old storage rack and out popped CAP403 must upload an up todate version.

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By: --o-o-O-o-o-- - 12th June 2010 at 09:51

CAP403

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP403.PDF

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By: Firebex - 12th June 2010 at 00:50

Fly-ins in the US are generally a fairly loose affair. There can be a lot of differences between the events. No aerobatics, no low passes (usually some high passes are done), sometimes fun stuff like spot landing contests and flour bombing. Depends a LOT on who’s putting it on, what kind of airfield, what kind of aircraft/pilots are attracted to the event.

Ryan

It is or was all defined in one of the CAP’s I am a bit rusty the last shows I organised where at Barton in the 1990’s (last one we ssadly lost the Mosquito)but I think it was CAP 642 .Anyway if you go to the CAA web site you can search for the appropriate CAP for shows and displays and it goes into great detail as to what is defined as a display under the rules and there fore attracts one hell of a lot of paperwork and effort months in advance to even get a sniff at getting permission and display authorisation.There is also no such thing with the CAA as a grey area its either Black or White ,some folks have tried in the past to be cleaver with the rules and have come a bit unstuck and the vast majority of Pilots with a DA on their ticket value it to much.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 11th June 2010 at 18:27

Fly-ins in the US are generally a fairly loose affair. There can be a lot of differences between the events. No aerobatics, no low passes (usually some high passes are done), sometimes fun stuff like spot landing contests and flour bombing. Depends a LOT on who’s putting it on, what kind of airfield, what kind of aircraft/pilots are attracted to the event.

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By: Melvyn Hiscock - 10th June 2010 at 17:47

The public can be admitted. Techically they are there to see the aeroplanes on the ground. Fly bys are NOT permitted, any pilot doing so is in danger of breaking Rule 5 (no flight within 500 ft of any building person or object unless engaged in normal aivation practice, ie taking off and landing or legitimate forced landing practice. – not the actual wording, my nearest remembering of it)

If there is any aerial activity put on for the spectators then it becomes a show and fees are charged by the CAA and rules have to be obeyed.

There is a fly in at North Weald next weekend. People will be admitted and will look at the stuff on the ground and arriving and departing.

Places like Popham, Compton Abbas and many others have a number of fly ins. Brimpton airfield had a good one last weekend.

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By: Yak 11 Fan - 10th June 2010 at 17:19

Why non public? I am sure I have been to fly ins before where the public attended. Wasn’t the recent gathering at North Weald a fly in? it definately wasn’t an airshow.

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By: Lindy's Lad - 10th June 2010 at 16:10

[edit – spouting b******s] no displays, Generally not for profit – most organisers donate to charity.

Suitable fire & 1st aid cover, usual amenities, liability insurance, risk-assessed to hell and back, notams.

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