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What happened to the EAP

Not sure if this classed as ‘ Historic’ or not, but as its not flying anymore and its not Military thought i’d try this forum.
Does anyone know what happened to the EAP , the forerunner of the Eurofighter Typhoon that we saw at Farnborough in the Eighties ??

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By: David Burke - 14th April 2006 at 15:35

Ollie – It was quite pretty from a distance – I havn’t a clue where it is now though!
Regards Loughborough – there might well be something with a propellor on the front
there – I would guess it’s not exotic – likely something Piper or Cessna shaped.

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By: ollieholmes - 14th April 2006 at 15:30

Ollie – You are bang on the money ! There was indeed a Bristol M.1C replica serialled ‘C4940’ at Bygone Times Antique Warehouse, Ecclestone circa 1997. It disappeared shortly after – I hasten to add not to become an airworthy machine at Old Warden or indeed anywhere else as it certainly was nice to look at but not built to original specifications!
Those in the ‘unbelieving’ camp can hunt out W&R circa editions 15 and 16 under Ecclestone or believe either me or Ollie who both saw it!

I would like to know where it has gone now. Does anyone know?

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By: jesterhud - 14th April 2006 at 10:16

[PS. jesterhud – I’m not meaning to be short, but 10 to 1 your guy’s son is just wrong. If I had a penny for every time I was assured that “there’s a W.W.II aircraft in location x”, which turned out to be a Cessna 172, or just about anything else, I’d have, um, 27 1/2p. However, I could be wrong too, and I’ll happily give you a penny when the Loughborough Typhoon is presented here. ;)[/QUOTE]

Don’t worry i have my bets that it is nothing but the EAP as well, but he did say it had propellers rather than a jet engine, so we will have to wait and see..

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By: stringbag - 14th April 2006 at 10:10

Loughborough used to have Hunter F.4 XE677 on its books in the 70s and 80s.
It was sold to Jet Heritage when they got the Jaguar XX765.
Tragically it crashed at Dunsfold in 1997 killing its pilot John Davies.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 14th April 2006 at 10:05

IIRC Its at Loughborough University as a teaching aid. No doubt it will make its way to Cosford just like the Jaguar ACT Demonstrator did before it. (this was also at Loughborough).

Maybe they should send it to hendon to replace the FSM eurofighter that was supposed to be a short term item but 2 years later is still there, surely the EAP would be more of a milestone of flight than a model.

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By: David Burke - 14th April 2006 at 09:23

It Pay’s To Check

Ollie – You are bang on the money ! There was indeed a Bristol M.1C replica serialled ‘C4940’ at Bygone Times Antique Warehouse, Ecclestone circa 1997. It disappeared shortly after – I hasten to add not to become an airworthy machine at Old Warden or indeed anywhere else as it certainly was nice to look at but not built to original specifications!
Those in the ‘unbelieving’ camp can hunt out W&R circa editions 15 and 16 under Ecclestone or believe either me or Ollie who both saw it!

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By: jesterhud - 14th April 2006 at 08:52

Ok i will endeavour to get more info from the guy at work tomorrow, will let you all know

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By: JDK - 14th April 2006 at 05:23

Slightly off topic but i remember walking into an antiques dealer in Lancashire (sorry cant remember where) and finding a full sized replica Bristol M1. I contacted them recantly to see if it was still there and all they could tell me it was not there any longer and they now have a aeroplane with 2 wings.
Id never herd of this Bristol anywhere before and have never herd of it since and antique dealers are fairly open acsess.
Just out of interest where is this M1c now?

Edit – I was wrong, apologies to Ollie, see David Burke’s post.

PS. jesterhud – I’m not meaning to be short, but 10 to 1 your guy’s son is just wrong. If I had a penny for every time I was assured that “there’s a W.W.II aircraft in location x”, which turned out to be a Cessna 172, or just about anything else, I’d have, um, 27 1/2p. However, I could be wrong too, and I’ll happily give you a penny when the Loughborough Typhoon is presented here. 😉

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By: ollieholmes - 14th April 2006 at 04:07

Well, I dunno what he’s talking about!

The last edition of Wrecks and Relics I have (19th) says they have the EAP and nothing else (correct as of Nov 2003). I don’t think it likely they have a ‘secret’ W.W.II era aircraft there.

It’s hardly a difficult to check location…

Slightly off topic but i remember walking into an antiques dealer in Lancashire (sorry cant remember where) and finding a full sized replica Bristol M1. I contacted them recantly to see if it was still there and all they could tell me it was not there any longer and they now have a aeroplane with 2 wings.
Id never herd of this Bristol anywhere before and have never herd of it since and antique dealers are fairly open acsess.
Just out of interest where is this M1c now?

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By: JDK - 14th April 2006 at 02:13

Hi
This guys son is at the University right now, not in the 60’s !! He says this plane is there now.

Well, I dunno what he’s talking about!

The last edition of Wrecks and Relics I have (19th) says they have the EAP and nothing else (correct as of Nov 2003). I don’t think it likely they have a ‘secret’ W.W.II era aircraft there.

It’s hardly a difficult to check location…

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By: topgun regect - 13th April 2006 at 20:26

Anyone notice it has a Tornado Fin?

IIRC most of the aircraft uses Tonka parts The rear fuse is modified F3, main undercart, canopy and a lot of the avionics that werent ready for the aircraft all came from a Tonka. It also used RB199D engines (The D denoting thrust reverse removed).

I think it was a mod made when one of the countries in the consortium who were supposed to build the rear fuse pulled out when it was the ACA program so to complete the airframe Tornado bits were used to create the EAP prototype. I may be wrong though.

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By: *Zwitter* - 13th April 2006 at 17:56

Loudest aircraft I ever heard!

Anyone notice it has a Tornado Fin?

Restore it and paint it in Red Bull colours! 😉

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By: Guzzineil - 13th April 2006 at 17:39

Hi
This guys son is at the University right now, not in the 60’s !! He says this plane is there now.

does it look like this..?? 😀

http://tinypic.com/k3ajq1.jpg

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By: wessex boy - 13th April 2006 at 16:46

Bog off, she never rated the EAP anyway, she always preferred flying the SU-27, and barrell rolls are much easier in a wheel chair at Mach 2 apparently.

What about the much admired cobra manoeuvre?
Having seen them strap 2 CO2 bottles on a wheelchair in Brainiac last week, I wondered how it would go with a couple of little Jetcat gas turbines? 😀

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By: Pete Truman - 13th April 2006 at 14:49

Is she? you should have mentioned it….. 😉

Bog off, she never rated the EAP anyway, she always preferred flying the SU-27, and barrell rolls are much easier in a wheel chair at Mach 2 apparently.

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By: adrian_gray - 13th April 2006 at 14:39

Thank you, Jesterhud!

You have confirmed that I did see something that looked very like the Eurofighter (batttling a single currency?) at Farnborough on my one visit in 198*!

I may still be going mad, but at least I know I’ve remembered that one right…

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By: jesterhud - 13th April 2006 at 14:26

Hi
This guys son is at the University right now, not in the 60’s !! He says this plane is there now.

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By: wessex boy - 13th April 2006 at 14:21

Oops just read the other threads but was interrupted mid reply by me mother on the phone, after all she is 90 today.

Is she? you should have mentioned it….. 😉

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By: Pete Truman - 13th April 2006 at 14:14

Interesting, I remember a scintillating display by this a/c at the Red Arrows anniversary air display during the late 80’s at Scampton, stuffed at the back of a hangar at Wharton no doubt.
Oops just read the other threads but was interrupted mid reply by me mother on the phone, after all she is 90 today.

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By: JDK - 13th April 2006 at 14:06

Ha.

They used to have a Grumman Martlet, Spitfire and Hurricane – but that was in the 1960s! Now they are in the FAA Museum for the Marlet, and Shuttleworth for the Spitfire & Hurri.

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