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what is this off of?

Found this on Sawbridgeworth airfield a few years ago, any ideas?

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By: Whitley_Project - 18th February 2006 at 11:16

Hello everyone

it’s a bit late by the looks of things, but it’s not Whitley 🙂

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By: Denis - 17th February 2006 at 21:16

Crikey!,
Many thanks 682al, what was the production run time wise for this type, first flight ect?.

Now what the blooming heck was a Valleta/Viking doing at Sawbridgeworth post war?…….and possibly dismantled as well??……walks away muttering…..why did I pick it up in the first place……….. should stick to stamp collecting…..curses… 😀

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By: 682al - 17th February 2006 at 17:47

It’s either Viking or Valetta.

I thought maybe Varsity but the layout of the levers etc does not quite match the diagram, whereas the Viking/Valetta layout does. The Pilot’s Notes for both types shows the plaque in situ.

You’ll have to do some sleuthing to establish how it got there in the first place.

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By: Denis - 17th February 2006 at 17:39

A Vickers Viking? :confused:

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By: 682al - 17th February 2006 at 17:36

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0930313/M/

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By: Denis - 17th February 2006 at 17:33

Hmmmm,
Military flying ceased in 1944 from Sawbridgeworth according to records. Looking through the list of types on the squadrons there were quite a few odd men out so to speak.
A DH48 Dominie, an Airspeed Oxford,Fairey Battle (single engined I know) Miles Martinet (again a single engine) .
Post war there was a Hiller 360, never seen one of those to comment!, a Piper Pawnee and a Grunman Agcat, again a single engined aircraft.
As far as I am aware the airfield was never used to dismantle aircraft, although it is possible that the odd type may have been scrapped on site. I shall not hold my breath waiting for an ID on this part, Many thanks for all of your help people 🙂
oops, just googled Hiller 360, it’s a fling wing 😀

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By: 682al - 17th February 2006 at 14:40

..and it’s not made by Avro, de Havilland, Boulton and Paul, Bristol, Shorts, Miles, Blackburn, Fairey, Gloster, Hawker, Handley-Page, Percival, Hunting, Saunders Roe, Cunliffe Owen, Scottish Aviation, Armstrong Whitworth, Hawker Siddeley, B.A.C., British Aerospace or Westlands!

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By: 682al - 17th February 2006 at 11:30

It’s British, it’s post-war, it’s obviously a twin piston engined machine, the engine control console lies in the centre between the two seats. There is little to tell whether it’s a civilian or a military type, but my betting is on civilian…

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By: JDK - 17th February 2006 at 09:43

Hi all,
Having been looking at both recently, it’s certainly neither Hudson nor Lysander (the latter being no surprise, I’m sure.) and while Bruce’s word is enough, I’ll also add ‘not Mosquito’.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/HudsonCockpit.jpg
Hudson – Australian, but essentially the same as UK versions.

Hudsons were Lockheed built, of course, and were not ‘Anglicised’ so far as to have something called a ‘chassis’ as was mentioned in an early post. I don’t think it likely, and the Hudson cockpit isn’t configured right for it.

Whitley was an earlier generation, and the air pressure operation was also a feature of that generation British a/c.

Elliott?

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By: Bruce - 17th February 2006 at 08:57

No, it is definitely not Mosquito. I would definitely go for a British a/c, so the Whitley might fit the frame nicely.

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By: Denis - 16th February 2006 at 23:20

Just googled Sawbridgeworth, yep, the link refers to my own website 🙂

Dont think it is off of a Mosquito, Bruce would know of course. The Whitley and Hudson possibility is interesting though.
Found plenty of bits at both Hunsdon and Sawbridgeworth over the years, the sort of things that get damaged or replaced were just tossed into the ditches and fields by riggers and fitters. This is different though, not the sort of thing to get replaced on a dispersal is it?. One of those things that will bug me forever!.

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By: 92fis - 16th February 2006 at 21:43

One site that mentions Sawbridgeworth has some links to some other bases so that may be how B-26’s were mentioned.

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By: ALBERT ROSS - 16th February 2006 at 21:37

Denis,

It must be a twin, so if you’re going by your list, then the only thing that fits is a Mosquito?

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By: Denis - 16th February 2006 at 19:10

Thanks for the replys so far
I dont know where googles ref to B-26 aircraft being based there came from, I do know for an absolute fact that they were not 😉
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2(AC) squadron lysanders,Tomahawk 1’s then Mustang 1’s were the principal squadron at Sawbridgeworth,

63, 168 and 170 squadrons(Mustang 1’s)

4(AC) squadron (Mustangs then later in 1944 with spitfire (PR) B flight of 4 squadron had Mosquito’s.

80 squadron (Spitfires)

268 Squadron (Spitfire)

126 squadron (Spitfire 1Xe’s)

1419 Flight (Lysander)

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By: 92fis - 15th February 2006 at 23:56

Whitley’s and at least one Hudson operated from there during the war.

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By: NiallC - 15th February 2006 at 23:52

“Chassis”, “Airscrew”. Hmmm. Surely British rather than American?

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By: EN830 - 15th February 2006 at 23:31

Shot of a B26 cockpit, there seems to be some sort of label in front of the centre consul, though it doesn’t look the right shape to match up to your example.

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By: Peter - 15th February 2006 at 23:06

a quick google reveals that B26 bombers were stationed there….

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