What's at the bottom of Germany's Lakes?

And a spaghetti tree

That was Panorama 😎

And a spaghetti tree

Some Duck on a Skateboard

Or a Dog that said ‘Sausages’

Some Duck on a Skateboard

No, they’d fall off

Sorry

I misheard you

So there is a complete Halifax in the bottom of a Berlin Lake with a FULL bomb load and it’s FOR SALE. I’ve heard this before – was even told there are photos, but surely it’s still the property of HM Government?

Phillip,

If so, why don’t they get it out of the lake then!!!

I understand that there are plans in Germany to recover the wreck. This was stated by a German participant at the 57Rescue Forum. Let’s see what happens.

Strange though that people think that others are daft enough to pay a lot of money and then receive the name of the lake and the caption: she’s all yours, go ahead.

Cees

Anybody else from here been on “”Nationwide” many many years ago” ?? 😀 😉

Some Duck on a Skateboard

HP57, what’s this about “there is a complete Halifax with bomb load still in a lake (and for sale as most of us know)” ?

Can you give more details or a link ?

So there is a complete Halifax in the bottom of a Berlin Lake with a FULL bomb load and it’s FOR SALE. I’ve heard this before – was even told there are photos, but surely it’s still the property of HM Government?

Anybody else from here been on “”Nationwide” many many years ago” ?? 😀 😉

Don’t be wet.

I think all this frivolity is muddying the waters!

Mark

You’re giving me the blues.

Melv,
You weren’t trying.
Can’t resist.
Sylt
And Worms. 😀

I think all this frivolity is muddying the waters!

Mark

The Perch Rock Museum at New Brighton is still very alive, as is the fin of the C-47 complete with the 27th ATG’s black and white (or yellow? can’t remember) striped tip. Don’t know of the ghost stories but the area round Dulyn is certainly a graveyard of aeroplanes.

Llyn Dulyn C-47

Digressing a long way from the original thread, most of C-47 43-48473 still lies in Llyn Dulyn, Snowdonia, the reservoir for the town of Llandudno, I believe! Back in 1973, the tail section was recovered, the only stipulation from the Water Board being that the sub-aqua club involved did not use a powered boat. RAF Valley Mountain Rescue Team dislodged the wreckage from the cliff above the lake in 1949 because (very tough) kids were climbing up to it ……. The engines must be in the lake too but it is very deep, local legend being that it is bottomless!

IIRC I think I saw the fin in the Fort Perch Rock museum in New Brighton (is the museum still there? ) with a whole load of other items from other wrecks. Also touching on another thread, the lake is (a) said to be haunted with the ghosts of dead aircrew, and (b) like Lake Constance, the scene of a few crashes over the years, isn’t it? I think I remember seeing something about it on “Nationwide” many many years ago where some figure in flying kit was standing by the side of the lake. I think the haunted wrecks/snowdonia angle could merit a thread by itself. I expect it’s been here already.

Rob / Kansan

I’ve always found this to be quite an odd attitude for a local council to take.

The lake supplies drinking water for the local residents, but there is an old aeroplane in it, which is full of oil, aviation fuel, ammunition, ordnance, and possibly human remains. Now I don’t know about you lot, but I’d prefer NOT to have that lot in my drinking water!

But oh no, we can’t get the thing lifted out of the lake, think of the contamination!

Err… :confused:

We can only hope that recoveries such as the He111 and Ju88 out of Norway last year will show that technology has moved on, and that these wrecks can be salvaged with minimal environmental impact. And that the remains of crew members, should there be any, can finally be repatriated.

Maybe its the possibilty that it is a war grave? Maybe its the possible threat of there still being hazardous ordnance on board? – Nermal

Digressing a long way from the original thread, most of C-47 43-48473 still lies in Llyn Dulyn, Snowdonia, the reservoir for the town of Llandudno, I believe! Back in 1973, the tail section was recovered, the only stipulation from the Water Board being that the sub-aqua club involved did not use a powered boat. RAF Valley Mountain Rescue Team dislodged the wreckage from the cliff above the lake in 1949 because (very tough) kids were climbing up to it. They left the olive drab centre section in place but sometime in the 1970s they pulled this down as well. People – including a much younger and very foolish yours truly – were still climbing up to it. The engines must be in the lake too but it is very deep, local legend being that it is bottomless!

Thanks for the info…

They include a sketch of the Lanc’s remains at the link brewerjerry mentions … strangest looking Lanc you ever did see :rolleyes:

A Lanc which looks suspiciously like it was copied from someone’s Big Boys’ Book of the B-17. That’s quite a large chunk surviving. Thanks to you and brewerjerry for setting me straight with the URL. I am ashamed to say I didn’t try the root URL to see if the site was still there. Gnash.

Rob / Kansan

I’ve always found this to be quite an odd attitude for a local council to take.

The lake supplies drinking water for the local residents, but there is an old aeroplane in it, which is full of oil, aviation fuel, ammunition, ordnance, and possibly human remains. Now I don’t know about you lot, but I’d prefer NOT to have that lot in my drinking water!

But oh no, we can’t get the thing lifted out of the lake, think of the contamination!

Err… :confused:

We can only hope that recoveries such as the He111 and Ju88 out of Norway last year will show that technology has moved on, and that these wrecks can be salvaged with minimal environmental impact. And that the remains of crew members, should there be any, can finally be repatriated.

A crumbling, oil and grease soaked WWII wreck would probably make my drinking water taste better 🙁

DS

unfortunately the lake supplies a large city’s drinking water, which apparently is stopping recovery.

I’ve always found this to be quite an odd attitude for a local council to take.

The lake supplies drinking water for the local residents, but there is an old aeroplane in it, which is full of oil, aviation fuel, ammunition, ordnance, and possibly human remains. Now I don’t know about you lot, but I’d prefer NOT to have that lot in my drinking water!

But oh no, we can’t get the thing lifted out of the lake, think of the contamination!

Err… :confused:

We can only hope that recoveries such as the He111 and Ju88 out of Norway last year will show that technology has moved on, and that these wrecks can be salvaged with minimal environmental impact. And that the remains of crew members, should there be any, can finally be repatriated.

http://www.arrowwarbirds.com/sitee.html

Dave

Four or five years ago I collected some Lancaster URLs. One of these was for a German sub-aqua club (in Thuringia) had a link to the crash site of (they said) JA 973 “JO-O” of 463 Squadron …

They include a sketch of the Lanc’s remains at the link brewerjerry mentions … strangest looking Lanc you ever did see :rolleyes: