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An open flap under the rear door or what?

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By: jeepman - 9th December 2014 at 13:20

That Tempo G1200 in front has an interesting paint scheme on the bonnet. Was that a standard German practice for high -vis on airfield vehicles. As it was 4X4 (one engine at back and one at front) I wonder if it was used as a light aircraft tractor.

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By: Graham Boak - 9th December 2014 at 12:49

Definitely the FW: the He177 had two separate undercarriage legs on each side and would have been severely struggling with just two BMW801s. As indeed was the Fw191: the Bomber B requirements really called for the Jumo 222 but it wasn’t available – it never was in significant numbers.

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By: Beermat - 9th December 2014 at 12:37

I’d go with the FW.. thanks all (not my area, German twins)

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By: Michel Lemieux - 9th December 2014 at 04:45

FW 191?

http://www.luft46.com/prototyp/fw191.html

http://www.luft46.com/prototyp/fw191-9.jpg

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By: mike currill - 9th December 2014 at 03:18

Certainly the outsize undercarriage would point in that direction.

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By: Bomberboy - 9th December 2014 at 00:39

I’d say one of the Heinkel HE 177 Grief variants?

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By: 25deg south - 1st May 2006 at 17:36

Hallelujah!

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By: Chad Veich - 1st May 2006 at 17:32

As stated above, there is only one surviving genuine P-64 and that is the one in the EAA Museum at Oshkosh. There have been numerous T-6 conversions to represent the NA-50/P-64 but none that are really accurate.

http://www.airventure.de/oshkosh05/warbirds_flying_1/osh05_na-50_1929.jpg
http://www.100megspopup.com/photo4phood/webaircraft/c93na50-1b.jpg
http://image.rcuniverse.com/forum/upfiles/23497/Pk31457.jpg

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By: paaln - 1st May 2006 at 16:51

There is one surviving P-64, and this isn’t it.

It’s an SNJ-4 built to resemble a P-64, according to a post in another forum, quoting a picture caption from Classic Wings from a CAF show at Midland 2005. It was in regards to a post about a french rebuild, that wasn’t a P-64 either.

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By: Ja Worsley - 1st May 2006 at 16:38

I did a bit of checking through my billions of books as well thinking it might have been a Curtis prototype or even a Serversky P-35 but the shap is all wrong, the P-35 had a very bulborus fusalage, same tail though.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/p35-1.jpg
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/p35-6.jpg

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By: Papa Lima - 1st May 2006 at 13:31

NA-50

According to my “bible”, the Aerofiles web site, this is an NA-50 in Peru.

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By: JDK - 1st May 2006 at 13:11

It goes like this.

“I’ve got a T-6, but I think it’s Boooring. What can I do? I know, I’ll convert it to something more interesting…”

Harvard based “NA-50” ‘replica’. Nothing wrong with the idea, but no longer a T-6, and not what it’s trying to pretend to be either.

There was a Harvard based ‘Wirraway’ on the US circuit for a while. It wasn’t a Wirraway, and it wasn’t a T-6 any more; neither horse nor donkey, it was a mule.

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By: italian harvard - 1st May 2006 at 12:50

the tailwheel assembly looks SO much like our Harvard IV.. 😉

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By: Hot_Charlie - 1st May 2006 at 12:45

Indeed. I’d missed those 2 pics as I’d only searched for P-64 on Anet…

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By: Fouga23 - 1st May 2006 at 12:35

thanks to google 🙂 seems this is a NA-50. some more:
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?aircraft_genericsearch=North%20American%20NA-50&distinct_entry=true

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By: Fouga23 - 1st May 2006 at 12:28

there is a p-64 on this site:
http://groupeaeronefs.free.fr/reci09.htm
but it’s transformed in a Hellcat :-s
several more weird “conversions” on that site

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By: Papa Lima - 1st May 2006 at 10:55

Just checked through my fully illustrated “Fighters of the USAF” and there is nothing exactly like this, for example the P-64 fin is triangular and more like that of the T-6. I agree with Mr McKay.
By the way, only six P-64s were built, for export to Siam, but were confiscated by the US Army, armament removed and placed in service as trainers at Luke Field, Arizona.

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By: 25deg south - 1st May 2006 at 10:53

M.M. .The project was featured in one of the U.K. mags as well and there is stuff on it on the internet if anybody wants to track it down. It could possibly be this item I think.

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By: Malcolm McKay - 1st May 2006 at 10:48

To hopefully end a disagreement, I thought I’d come here for a definitive answer to…

What’s this… (I’m 100% sure I know – just need some back up!)

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/sof59.JPG 😀

Thanks 🙂

I doubt that it is either a genuine P64 or one of its predecessors the NA-50A or the NA-68. It appears to be a rather crude rebuild of a AT-6 (Harvard) Another clue is the trailing edge of the rudder, to resemble the single seater fighter variant. The clue to this is in the length and structure of the canopy.

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By: DH106 - 1st May 2006 at 10:31

Was gonna say a Boomerang – but it’s not short/stocky enough.

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