December 24, 2007 at 1:25 pm
http://www.lincsaviation.co.uk/news_and_images.cfm
Just seen the LAHC website – Anyone know where MJ627 has been ‘relocated’ ? Has she been temporarily flown out of EK for the winter or has Maurice Bayliss decided to base his Spit. elsewhere – if so …… any particular reason behind the decision.
Last time I was at EK was 3rd November and ‘627 performed beautifully in the skies above. Here’s a shot of her on the ground being prepared for display on that afternoon.
Richard
By: Bruce - 9th January 2008 at 08:43
On that basis, I am more than happy to accede to the request.
Please also note that insults of a personal nature will not be tolerated, This thread has sailed extremely close to the wind, and is another example of rampant speculation gone mad.
At the end of the day, it is the owners choice where he bases his aircraft, and who he asks to fly it.
I have also taken the opportunity to clean the thread to remove some of the comments about the pilot. This seems to be in line with what has been asked by a number of posters.
Bruce (Moderator)
By: R J A Taylor - 8th January 2008 at 23:46
Gossip shouldn’t be listened to, ………….
Richard, by drawing attention to the thread you mention you ARE adding to the speculation and I must ask why? You keep bringing this subject up when the likely reason for the aircraft moving is, as pointed out elsewhere in this thread, its winter maintenance. On the thread that you point out Martin K makes a statement on behalf of the management of LAHC, if there was any substance to all of this don’t you think they would have commented?
So far there has been one complaint from someone that his son wasn’t allowed to look in the Spitfire unless £30 was paid, the Panton Brothers charge £25 for a look in Just Jane and rightly so, these aircraft cost money to maintain. Remember there is always two sides to a story and none of us were present when the request by Billyh42 for ‘a look in the Spitfire’ was made. Lets not slam Sqn Ldr Day who has done much for the historic aircraft scene in the last 20? years flying with BBMF and many civilian Spitfires and Hurricanes on what may well have been a complete misunderstanding by one individual.
I am deeply saddened to have been deemed to be fuelling speculation by my posts in this thread. Nothing could be further from my mind I can honestly assure you.
When I started this thread I was simply curious, after having read the LAHC website, as to why this Spitfire had apparently departed East Kirkby “for the last time” (as the caption stated under a photo of ‘MJ627’).
After a few replies had been posted I could see that the current whereabouts of this aircraft was possibly known to a few fellow ‘forumites’ but that there was a developing risk that the “2+2=5” speculators might decide to contribute and, in doing so, could lead us to exactly where we appear to be at this time on this thread!!
I certainly had no ulterior motives, DBW, for inserting the link to the earlier thread on the ‘Photographic sub forum’ – it was simply another recent thread which referred to ‘627 and the comments posted there reflected an interesting insight, especially the quoted response attributed to Andrew Panton.
I made a promise to ‘Fluffy’ (off forum) that I would NOT FUEL SPECULATION on the subject of ‘627s whereabouts OR the possible reasons behind the move from EK – I INTEND TO STAND BY THAT PROMISE.
I AM EXTREMELY UNHAPPY THAT THIS THREAD HAS DEVELOPED IN THE WAY IT HAS – SO AS NOT TO ALLOW UNACCEPTABLE SPECULATION ON THIS SUBJECT TO ESCALATE I AM PERSONALLY MORE THAN HAPPY TO ECHO THE COMMENT MADE EARLIER BY ‘FLUFFY’ –
“THIS THREAD SHOULD NOW BE LOCKED”
Suffice to say – the definitive answers to my original question will, I expect, become clarified over time. I am happy to wait for that time.
Richard
By: Stormin' - 7th January 2008 at 22:01
Currently housed just a stone’s throw away. A further poss move still being arranged!!
“oh didn’t you know it’s gone to CONINGSBY for some work to be done”.
As I said just a stones throw away!!!
By: Fluffy - 7th January 2008 at 20:59
At last, the wings for TE311? 🙂
Mark
I wish 😀
By: Norman D Lands - 7th January 2008 at 20:56
I’m with Fluffy- this thread is getting a bit out of hand. 🙁
There have been a few of them lately, guess people like to ruffle the feathers.
By: BlueRobin - 7th January 2008 at 20:48
Can we please stay off the rather slippy ground pertaining to someone’s circumstances and character, as has been highlighted above? If forumites can show restraint, then there should be no need to lock a thread. But we are watching.
Thank you 🙂
BR
Moderator
By: Mark12 - 7th January 2008 at 20:47
“oh didn’t you know it’s gone to CONINGSBY for some work to be done”. Keith.
At last, the wings for TE311? 🙂
Mark
By: stuart gowans - 7th January 2008 at 20:45
What a completely semseless set of responses to an originally decent question.
The why’s and wherefores do nothing to add value and much conjecture and speculation merely besmurch those that are not here to comment in person.
If someone does know the why MJ627 is not at EK will they please step forward. Until then is there any chance of a little dacorum?
Forum dacorum…. nice idea, I’m sure wherever MJ627 is, it will turn up in the fullness of time.
By: keithnewsome - 7th January 2008 at 20:35
Hopefully before it gets locked ! Today, talking casualy with a colleage about things spitfire at work, I asked if he had seen anymore of it at Norwich, his instant reply was “oh didn’t you know it’s gone to CONINGSBY for some work to be done”. Whether this is good gen or duff gen I don’t know ? I would rather not get involved with the politics and personalities involved here ! so will let you nice people think about this. Keith.
By: Bluebird Mike - 7th January 2008 at 20:16
I’m with Fluffy- this thread is getting a bit out of hand. 🙁
By: Fluffy - 7th January 2008 at 20:08
If someone does know the why MJ627 is not at EK will they please step forward. Until then is there any chance of a little dacorum?
Surely that is between the owners of the a/c and the museum as to the reasons why!!!! The facts are the a/c is no longer at East Kirkby time this thread was locked!!!!
By: DBW - 7th January 2008 at 15:09
Mark V, agreed, you haven’t mentioned anything about gossip and rumours, others have.
Merlin 70, Well said.
By: merlin70 - 7th January 2008 at 11:41
Senseless Thread
What a completely semseless set of responses to an originally decent question.
The why’s and wherefores do nothing to add value and much conjecture and speculation merely besmurch those that are not here to comment in person.
If someone does know the why MJ627 is not at EK will they please step forward. Until then is there any chance of a little dacorum?
By: Mark V - 6th January 2008 at 23:43
You keep bringing this subject up when the likely reason for the aircraft moving is, as pointed out elsewhere in this thread, its winter maintenance. On the thread that you point out Martin K makes a statement on behalf of the management of LAHC, if there was any substance to all of this don’t you think they would have commented?
They have ‘commented’, I have simply quoted from the aviation centres own website mentioned in the first post on this thread which says “Final Departure – The Spitfire takes off from East Kirkby for the last time. Spitfire MJ627 has left East Kirkby for the last time as it is relocated to another airfield.”
The words ‘final departure’ and ‘left for the last time’ seem pretty clear to me and do not hint at a temporary move. All I am doing is looking at the site contolled by the airfied operator, I do not have any ‘inside’ information’ and I am not speculating. It does however seem quite clear to me from this that the aircraft has moved permenantly. As to why this has happened I am afraid I have no idea but wish it and its operational team well at its new location, wherever that may be.
By: R J A Taylor - 31st December 2007 at 16:07
its the time of year in which old aeroplanes get fettled.. I dont believe its anymore sinister than that.. 😉
HI NEIL – CAN YOU HAVE A QUICK LOOK AT YOUR PERSONAL E-MAIL WHEN YOU’VE GOT A ‘MO’.
STILL NO DEFINITIVE NEWS IT SEEMS RE THIS SPIT. !! :confused:
Cheers
Richard
By: Guzzineil - 31st December 2007 at 16:06
So the information on the airfield/museum operator’s website quote in post 2 is wrong then?
ah, hadnt seen that when I originally looked at their website.. dont know then, only that its currently just down the road, as Stormin mentioned.
By: Mark V - 31st December 2007 at 14:00
its the time of year in which old aeroplanes get fettled.. I dont believe its anymore sinister than that.. 😉
So the information on the airfield/museum operator’s website quote in post 2 is wrong then?
By: Guzzineil - 31st December 2007 at 13:50
its the time of year in which old aeroplanes get fettled.. I dont believe its anymore sinister than that.. 😉
By: R J A Taylor - 29th December 2007 at 20:51
Currently housed just a stone’s throw away. A further poss move still being arranged!!
Thanks for all the recent sightings – but still no reasons been put forward for the (apparent sudden) move away from East Kirkby where the Spit was nicely under cover in the hangar behind Lancaster NX611 and added greatly to the exhibits at the LAHC, not to mention the frequent flying displays with ‘The Major’ at the controls.
By the way ‘Stormin’ can you be a little more exact in your location for “a stone’s throw away” – where is she currently being housed?
ANYONE GOT ANY IDEAS ??? – HAS SHE A NEW OWNER OR WHAT ?
Richard
PS I see others are asking the same question on this Forum :-
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1197170&highlight=MJ627#post1197170
By: keithnewsome - 24th December 2007 at 19:56
Positive sighting of her here at Norwich on 28 November and others saw her flying from and to here on 01 December and 08 December ! No news since ? Keith.