October 8, 2013 at 12:06 pm
Can anyone give any information about the attached photo? I think I see a Whirlwind and a Barracuda off to the right plus the Spitfire and the Corsair. It looks like aircraft being assembled to form a museum perhaps?
By: bazv - 1st November 2013 at 11:37
I borrowed the book ‘The Fledglings’ from a chum.
Looks like all the main buildings still survive,there is a good picture of the Hangar and another picture also confirms that the building where the OP’s photo was taken from is indeed the gun butts !
Aircraft mentioned/pictured in the book include Corsair,Widcat,Fulmar,Blackburn Shark,Swordfish,Walrus,Anson,Hurricane,Proctor,Avenger and Barracuda !
Edit – I have spelt avenger correctly but for some reason it ends up with a gap LOL
By: nibb100 - 1st November 2013 at 10:21
just a bit off topic but that’s the first Corsair I’ve seen in camouflage, was it common?
By: mike currill - 1st November 2013 at 07:57
If there is I haven’t found it. Definitely two Barraccudas though.
By: pogno - 1st November 2013 at 07:44
We must have been thinking along similar lines?!
Managed to get a used copy as in “New Condition” from Amazon, although there was only one left in stock!
Hopefully will be delivered at some point next week, so will give it a read and post the main points of interest regarding HMS Fledgling!
Drove through Millmeece (Mill Meece) many times on the way to Stafford from Newport (Shropshire) and never realised the significance of the place!
Cheers
Tim
Tim
Just a nudge. Did the booklet arrive from Amazon and did it have any useful information?
A list of aircraft used at Mill Meece and their eventual fates would be nice.
Richard
By: Mothminor - 12th October 2013 at 21:57
I can see the second Wildcat now, is that a second Hurri in the nearest of the two LH hangars with the Fulmer in the next one.
Yes, it is.
By: snafu - 12th October 2013 at 21:11
…a group of WAAFS having removed the 8 guns from a Hurricane….
They are Wrens – Women’s Royal Naval Service. Even says so in the original caption[/pedantic]
By: Timc63 - 12th October 2013 at 20:46
I see a book was published in 2003 called Fledglings: The Story of HMS Fledgling by G Bebbington, does anyone have a copy because none seem to be for sale anywhere.
Richard
We must have been thinking along similar lines?!
Managed to get a used copy as in “New Condition” from Amazon, although there was only one left in stock!
Hopefully will be delivered at some point next week, so will give it a read and post the main points of interest regarding HMS Fledgling!
Drove through Millmeece (Mill Meece) many times on the way to Stafford from Newport (Shropshire) and never realised the significance of the place!
Cheers
Tim
By: pogno - 12th October 2013 at 19:44
Second Wildcat is just visible behind the second Barracuda on the right hand side – prop, top of cowling and one wing only to be seen.
I assume that the Fulmar is the aircraft at top left though I can’t get a lot of detail even enhancing the photo.
I can see the second Wildcat now, is that a second Hurri in the nearest of the two LH hangars with the Fulmer in the next one.
I see a book was published in 2003 called Fledglings: The Story of HMS Fledgling by G Bebbington, does anyone have a copy because none seem to be for sale anywhere.
Richard
By: Mothminor - 12th October 2013 at 18:39
I am unable to see the Fulmers or the second Wildcat
Second Wildcat is just visible behind the second Barracuda on the right hand side – prop, top of cowling and one wing only to be seen.
I assume that the Fulmar is the aircraft at top left though I can’t get a lot of detail even enhancing the photo.
By: Mothminor - 12th October 2013 at 18:32
Could it be a gun harmonizing butt? It looks similar to ones i have seen elsewhere..
Ian
I stand corrected – you are absolutely right!
By: wieesso - 12th October 2013 at 07:13
Says here there is also a Fulmar in the piccy.
http://royalmilitary.tumblr.com/post/21602549050/tennozan-hms-fledgling-in-staffordshire-in
HMS Fledgling. Generally known as Millmeece http://www.airfieldinformationexchange.org/community/showthread.php?6252-Military-Establishments-near-Stone-Staffs
By: pogno - 11th October 2013 at 23:24
I found this picture taken at HMS Fledgeling http://www.cairdpublications.com/scrap/seafire/seafire.htm (its the third image down) of a group of WAAFS having removed the 8 guns from a Hurricane, it would seem to be a fair assumption that after refitting them they would then test fire them using the butts as Wellington285 suggests.
Presumably in the original image that started all this it is possible to see the other aircraft mentioned, I am unable to see the Fulmers or the second Wildcat.
Lots here about shooting in butts http://www.airfieldinformationexchange.org/community/showthread.php?4995-Machinegun-Testing-Butts
Richard
By: Wellington285 - 11th October 2013 at 22:24
Could it be a gun harmonizing butt? It looks similar to ones i have seen elsewhere..
Ian
By: Mothminor - 11th October 2013 at 19:31
I may be wrong but I suspect it may be all that’s left of the control tower. It certainly seems to be a sandstone building as seen on far right in first photo and it appears to have had a balcony – see the shadow in photo 2. Farmer appears to have converted it to a shed 🙁
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All joking aside about buried stuff – I’d love to have a poke around that site with a metal detector!
By: Wellington285 - 11th October 2013 at 16:17
Think that the person who took the photo was standing on this building. What is the building?
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By: 92fis - 11th October 2013 at 10:41
Says here there is also a Fulmar in the piccy.
http://royalmilitary.tumblr.com/post/21602549050/tennozan-hms-fledgling-in-staffordshire-in
By: Trolly Aux - 11th October 2013 at 10:04
Yes, a very good and interesting thread.
Good knowledge as always.
Will the photo be at ?
By: charliehunt - 11th October 2013 at 08:56
I think in fact as it is expected of him, we are all bound to leave the comment to him. It’s almost his prerogative!!:D
But I have to echo an earlier comment about the sleuthing here. Fascinating and absorbing from the point of view of a humble onlooker. Mind you I expected nothing less on this forum!!:)
By: Trolly Aux - 11th October 2013 at 08:37
you couldnt resist Andy could you. everyone else wanted to say it but held back you little :dev2:
By: Arabella-Cox - 10th October 2013 at 21:57
I think they are being readied for burial in those last images, Propstrike. You can clearly see the crates.