December 21, 2005 at 2:37 pm
Gents,
Compared between UK, France and Germany, which country is more advanced in engineering & technology.
By: Comet - 23rd December 2005 at 13:41
Britain, seeing as alot of our industry has been destroyed by the bloody EU. British ships are superior, but under EU rules the contracts have to go to the cheapest quote, so we get inferior workmanship from France or Germany whilst our own shipyards are left to rot. The QE2 was a mess after it was “maintained” at a German yard. Ships built in France for P&O have been a laughing stock because they are, quite frankly, crap. Britain used to lead the world with innovation in aviation, but now we just makes wings for something assembled in bloody France. Our steel industry in Sheffield has been decimated in favour of cheap EU imports. Cheap coal, and the foreign-crawling traitorous governments killed off the mining industry and decimated communities in the process.
By: ollieholmes - 23rd December 2005 at 02:01
You could argue the Russians are good too as despite how crude in finish some of their products are they work and work well for ages. Everyone knocks Lada cars of old but they appeared solid and to last.
Have you ever compared the finish on a Mig29 as opposed to an F-16. The panels are crude by comparison and yet the MiG is an agile aircraft.
The Russians like to keep things simple and make sure it works whilst the Americans seem to keep changing stuff. Proof of the pudding the ak47.
By: Crazypilot - 23rd December 2005 at 00:04
For the trains include also Finmeccanica (Italy).
By: Newforest - 22nd December 2005 at 21:47
I thought Bombardier (Canada) was the prominent train maker? :confused:
Hallo84. I thought I was more right than wrong:
2001 Germany orders 40 x 4 electric car units from Bombardier
bringing total to 100 ordered.
2002 UK order worth $757M from Connex South Eastern for 228
electric cars to complement the previous order of 210 cars
bringing the total in the UK to 1434 cars.
By: hallo84 - 22nd December 2005 at 20:22
I thought Bombardier (Canada) was the prominent train maker? :confused:
It is…
Bombardier supplies most of the trains in Canada and the US.
including the Amtrak and most of the CN. Bombardier also supplie all the metro and sky train as well.
European market is relatively dominated by prominant corperations of said country and is rather protectionistic against foreign firms.
Currently China is interested in the gas turbine bullet train developed by Bombardier (possibly for the Tibet plateau route? average altitude of 3km above sea level)
Another major train supplier would be Siemens (ie the first ever commercial maglev)
Japan has made no foreign sales… aside from the single fast train line proposed in Taiwan, of which is only a failed political show piece. lol. The test train crawled along the tracks at a record 30km/h.
By: Crazypilot - 22nd December 2005 at 17:38
By far Germany
Examples:
1) Siemens AG
2) Daimler Chrysler
3) BMW
4) Rheinmental DeTec
5) KMW
6) HDW – Thyssen (even without Swedish Kockums)
7) Merck and Bayer
8) Deutsche Boerse
9) E-ON (Energy)
From Britain only BAE Systems is the most powerful corporation
And from France DCN shipyards, Peugeot-Citroen and Renault SA (that also has Nissan).
By: Canpark - 22nd December 2005 at 14:50
I thought Bombardier (Canada) was the prominent train maker? :confused:
I’m not too sure about Canadian products.
By: Arm Waver - 22nd December 2005 at 09:37
These countries maybe good at building cars but there are a lot of British engineers involved too PLUS Britain is seen to be the place for car designers…
It all depends on what your benchmark is that you are comparing things to too.
You could argue the Russians are good too as despite how crude in finish some of their products are they work and work well for ages. Everyone knocks Lada cars of old but they appeared solid and to last.
Have you ever compared the finish on a Mig29 as opposed to an F-16. The panels are crude by comparison and yet the MiG is an agile aircraft.
By: fft - 22nd December 2005 at 09:11
Depends on what you want. If it is cars you want the Germans win by a mile. If it is shipping it is probably England. Airplanes would probably be for France. Trains go to France with Germany a close second and England somewhere derailed a few km down the track.
Germany is way ahead in heavy industries (steel + manufacturing), should’nt they also be ahead when it comes to making ships.
By: Newforest - 22nd December 2005 at 09:03
I’d go for Japan and Germany, they make good cars and trains.
I thought Bombardier (Canada) was the prominent train maker? :confused:
By: Canpark - 22nd December 2005 at 03:30
I’d go for Japan and Germany, they make good cars and trains.
By: tenthije - 21st December 2005 at 22:38
Depends on what you want. If it is cars you want the Germans win by a mile. If it is shipping it is probably England. Airplanes would probably be for France. Trains go to France with Germany a close second and England somewhere derailed a few km down the track.
By: steve rowell - 21st December 2005 at 22:32
I’d have to say Japan by a country mile!!