November 18, 2013 at 5:40 pm
HI All,
Came across this photograph entitled Spitfire can take it Mk Vb , which at first glance with its 3 blade Rotol prop, VDM spinner backplate and the front part of its 3 exhausts just on show certainly makes it look like a MkV however it has a MkIX type oil tank more suited to the Merlin 60 series Spitfires.
Can anybody shed any light on what mark of spitfire could this be?
Many Thanks
Jason
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By: oldgit158 - 25th November 2013 at 17:27
Anne,
Thank you and your 100% correct, have just reclaimed my copy of the Spitfire V manual by the RAFM.
Clearly shown in Sec 5 figures 20 and 22 is the later type of Oil tank used for the tropical version of the Mk V.
Thank you to everybody who assisted on this thread.
Regards
Jason
By: anneorac - 20th November 2013 at 16:08
A quick look at the AP.1565E Spitfire V, Vol.1, Section 5 shows the oil tank in the photograph as a standard fitting in later Mk.V aircraft.
Anne
By: oldgit158 - 20th November 2013 at 13:46
Is there anybody from Arco at Duxford that has any photo’s of the MkVc trop without the bottom cowling off? or know what type of oil tank was fitted?
Regards
Jason
By: Mark V - 18th November 2013 at 23:30
Take a look at this…
By: Spiteful - 18th November 2013 at 22:57
The first Spit in the picture seems to have the cowl off and the oil tank…
http://www.spitfiresite.com/photos/historic/uploaded_images/spitfire-mk-v-253-sqn-italy-751619.jpg
By: Bradburger - 18th November 2013 at 22:29
Hi Paul,
Have googled images of JG891 but was unable to find any showing the oil tank, do you have any yourself?
Jason
Regarding Mark12…noticed him logged in earlier when I originally started this thread, no doubt he would have sewn it all up by now aqes ago but for the sad actions of a few.
Jason,
I haven’t got or don’t recall seeing any of JG891’s with the bottom cowling off, but if you look here, you can see the one piece bottom cowling clearly.
http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=21111
(It’s the third picture down in the first post).
There were some pictures of it flying at Duxford prior to it’s departure with it fitted.
Cheers
Paul
By: Mark V - 18th November 2013 at 22:01
This is not the Mk lX that Mr Martindale did a dive in from 40,000 feet because a photo of that shows that all the propellor gear is missing.
You are quite correct – its not – that was a PR.XI. The pictured aircraft is a Mk.V as has been pointed out further back in this thread.
By: oldgit158 - 18th November 2013 at 21:13
Take a look at pictures of JG891 after it had it’s tropical cowling removed and one fitted, prior to it going to the US.
Hi Paul,
Have googled images of JG891 but was unable to find any showing the oil tank, do you have any yourself?
Jason
Regarding Mark12…noticed him logged in earlier when I originaly started this thread, no doubt he would have sewn it all up by now aqes ago but for the sad actions of a few.
By: R6915 - 18th November 2013 at 20:50
I think I have seen this photo somewhere before, but cannot be at all certain so I’m possibly quite wrong about this but, my little grey cell seems to point me at a Farnborough connection here. This is not the Mk lX that Mr Martindale did a dive in from 40,000 feet because a photo of that shows that all the propellor gear is missing. As Mr Sopwith says, where is Mark 12 when you need him??
By: Dan Johnson - 18th November 2013 at 20:47
It does look like a MK.V.
Most likely a this aircraft had a tropical filter, and hence a larger oil tank fitted.
If the tropical filter was removed, a one piece cowling could be fitted in it’s place.
Take a look at pictures of JG891 after it had it’s tropical cowling removed and one fitted, prior to it going to the US.
Cheers
Paul
Note the dress of the pilot. No doubt a Tropical filter equipped Spitfire Vc
By: Sopwith - 18th November 2013 at 19:41
Pity Mark 12 isn’t here , he’d know for sure or what about Edgar?
By: Bradburger - 18th November 2013 at 18:20
It does look like a MK.V.
Most likely a this aircraft had a tropical filter, and hence a larger oil tank fitted.
If the tropical filter was removed, a one piece cowling could be fitted in it’s place.
Take a look at pictures of JG891 after it had it’s tropical cowling removed and one fitted, prior to it going to the US.
Cheers
Paul
By: oldgit158 - 18th November 2013 at 17:55
Mr Merry
Maybe but the oil tank on the early spitfire formed one third of the lower engine cowling where as the late oil tanks sat under a full lower engine cowling, I am also sure that the late engine U frame is different to the early one so to retro fit the late oil tank may require some modification to the early U frame.
By: Mr Merry - 18th November 2013 at 17:43
MkV retro fitted with a retro fitted MkIX tank? All that was available maybe.