'White British' now a minority in London

Back to the notion that White British people are a minority in London.

That must be because there are so many New Zealanders living here.:D

Kev 35

I know exactly from where you are coming. Particularly relevant to muddled thinking.

Sometimes you really need a like button.

Regards,

kev35

Kev 35

Re 9

You make an interesting point. On the basis that a dog born in a stable is really a horse, the fact that I was born in North East India makes me a Bangladeshi.

When next I shave, I’ll scrutinise the apparition looking back at me a little more closely !

In my defence, my iPad changed it.

So you are using Apple technology as your defence counsel – Tim Cook would be impressed and Steve might rise from the dead in celebration!!:diablo:

I’m so embarrassed! 😀

Sorry, couldn’t resist the irony of the situation! 😀

Did you miss the “fist” language?! Presumably when you resort to purely physical, non-verbal communication.

Only when people pick me up on my spelling! :diablo:

:diablo:

In my defence, my iPad changed it.

I’m so embarrassed! 😀

Yup, Managed to “duck” that one Charlie. 😉

Jim.
Lincoln .7

Did you miss the “fist” language?! Presumably when you resort to purely physical, non-verbal communication.

I have seen that word as TORT, which of coarse is a legal word, but was used in the context as taught.

Jim.

Lincoln .7

+1..:D:D

…they are usually not tought English as their fist language…

:diablo:

yes we need some sort of immigration control, but “Labour importing voters” purlease, spare me from deluded Tory obsessives.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html

Of course they don’t include children born in this Country because they are British! If they were born in this country they cannot be foreign born.

They are technically British, as they were born here. However, they are usually not taught English as their first language by their parents, so they’re hardly an integrated part of British society.

And just what sort of controls would you like there to be? A total ban on immigration? Forced integration of minority communities into wider British society? Just let your imagination run riot, it’s been done before.

Regards,

kev35

A total ban on immigration for the short term, unless under exceptional circumstances. If someone attains British citizenship, that should not entitle them to automatically bring their whole family with them! And stricter rules on marriage to non uk citizens – there are various subcultures in the UK where marrying a foreigner and living in the UK is seen as the norm.

None of this would be necessary if Labour had shown some responsibility with immigration.

[QUOTE=j_jza80;1962616
I am not an Islamophobe, and welcome a degree of multiculturalism to the UK, but I see the numbers as they are presented and quite frankly find the huge increase alarming.[/QUOTE]

Nor am I, quite the opposite in fact, but multiculturalism is precisely what causes friction. Immigrant integration is what we should have so that immigrants become absorbed into the UK population without losing their language and culture.

For as long as I can remember, certainly since my early teenage years, I have believed in “when in Rome do as the Romans do”, meaning that if you make the free choice to go to live in another country you should not impose your national traits on your adopted nation.

I’d rather the UK be a bit of a soft touch for immigrants than a hard line dictatorship or, even worse, a Religious Fundamentalist State.

Regards,

kev35

Unfortunately, they can go hand in hand. The number of Muslims in the UK has increased by 50% in 10 years according to the census. I would venture that the policies, laws and social norms of a Muslim state are not something that most Brits would want, but if something isn’t done now then that may be a reality for future generations. A significant proportion of Islamic states are fundamentalist, and I don’t see why an Islamic UK would be any different.

I am not an Islamophobe, and welcome a degree of multiculturalism to the UK, but I see the numbers as they are presented and quite frankly find the huge increase alarming.

I didn’t say a law is subjective, but opinions and thoughts as to whether we agree with them or not is.

I don’t want us to be a dictatorship either, but there is a balance to be had. I agree with Jim’s sentiments entirely about how easy it is for immigrants to swan in over here and claim everything going whilst the indigenous population cannot get half of what is given away to these immigrants. Anyway, if I get started I fear I won’t stop, so I’ll stop there.

How can a law be subjective?
Regards,
kev35

In the sense that is not objective. A law is arrived at by a subjective and arguably irrational process.

How can a law be subjective?

There is no master rule book as you put it, but the rule books laid down by individual Countries are often an indicator of the attitudes and morals prevailing in that Country. I’d rather the UK be a bit of a soft touch for immigrants than a hard line dictatorship or, even worse, a Religious Fundamentalist State.

is it time for some form of immigration control stronger than that in use now? Quite possibly, but it has to be measured and even handed and transparent. And it can never be applied retrospectively.

Regards,

kev35