Who can identify this film/documentary?

I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a list of stuff I’d like to see 😎

“Attack of the Jungle Women” sounds interesting… 🙂

Angle of Attack

Mr Creosote, many thanks for that. I have no idea if there was a movie of the book or whatever but the context is clearly close.

So I took a look at IMDB ~ you know the drill, search on “angle of attack”

Ha ha, ho ho :p I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a list of stuff I’d like to see 😎

http://www.imdb.com/find?q=angle%20of%20attack;s=tt;ttype=ep

G’ day all

Not sure of the Film/ Doc, but yes I am reading the story of it right now in ” Decision Over Schweinfurt by Tomas M.Coffey.

This one’s from the 100th Group, a B-17, Piloted by a Capt Robert Knox.

And they were tail end charlie in the armada, near Cologne they were hit from below by a 109, and lost an engine, Knox feathered number 1, advanced the other’s but the formation’s were still pulling away fast.

Now they had no choice but hit the deck, they could not keep up or even make the shuttle to Africa, Crew decision try for or Thope Abbots or a neutral country, like Switzerland…..they chose home!(I would have hit the slope’s and blonde’s LoL!).

Now this all come’s from Lt Ernest Warsaw the Navigator, He say’s he began studing his map’s for the safest route, then noticed they were still at about 15,000 ft, and yelled in the com, what the hell are ya doing up here, but got no replie, and thought maybe both pilot’s were dead!

Moment’s later a gunner yelled over the com, A whole squadron comming up at 6’oclock!

Warsaw looked out both side window’s and saw a strange mixture of German aeroplanes, 12 or 13 of them, 109’s, 110’s, 190’s, Ju88’s and other type’s.

All were sliding in close and throttling back, like they intended to fly in friendly formation with them.

Everyone who could get to a gun blasted away, including Warsaw who said he saw atleast 9 fall away in flame’s, 3 he was certain were his kill’s.

As Warsaw watched them going down and hitting the ground he noticed the 17’s wheel’s were down! he gave it no thought during all the excitment of battle, but he remembered later it was a international signal for surrender DOH!

And yes of course the surviving German fighter’s, NOT so friendly now came back and shot the absolute shiit out of the 17, and in less then a minute it was riddled, the bell to get out was rung, and Warsaw jumped out.

That will do I am knackered, Still up as it’s a buggger of a HOT night must still be about 26/27c outside now, and it’s 3.40am!!!!! 36c today OH and LoL 36c today!!

Gunna have some EVIL wacky tobbacy for medicinal M.S. purpose’s and hit the sack, ” Gut Nacht ” all.

And gnome I just taped ” Their’s Is The Glory ” a few night/morning’s back, a real WW2 Doco bout bridge’s a tad tooo far…… but I think I may have watched something similiar to the one you speak of.

Oooo Roooo must crash melting……….:dev2: CROC’S RULE !!;)

Got it. The book was called “Angle of attack”, but this is all I can find so far (3rd last paragraph) –

http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0026-3931%28195324%2917%3A4%3C210%3ASR%3E2.0.CO%3B2-J&size=LARGE&origin=JSTOR-enlargePage

In the book I read, the mid-upper gunner had been hit and rendered unconscious in the initial attack, and when he came round and saw enemy fighters in formation with the B-24 he opened up on them again, unaware that the rest of the crew had decided to surrender and lowered the u/c. The blurb insisted it was based on real events, but it always seemed a bit far-fetched to me. I hope someone comes up with the title soon, otherwise I might be in for a night up in the loft looking for that old paperback. 😮

Many many years ago such a tale appeared in the venerable TV series “The Dick Powell Theatre”
The problem was they only had a film clip taken , probably from the waist position, of the u/c going down in the circuit. Thus when the “u/c up” sequence was required, the B-17 ended up appearing to be flying backwards. That was the bit I remembered best as a lad…..
P.S. Looking at the IMDB it might have been “The Court Martial of Captain Wycliff”

A “Bloody 100th” BG Story?

Isn’t this the story (possibly apocryphal) as to why the “Bloody 100th” BG (IIRC), based at Thorpe Abbots, was regularly singled out for special attention by the Luftwaffe? One story has it that one of their aircraft lowered it’s undercarriage whilst the formation was under attack during a bombing raid (the aknowledged signal of airborne surrender), but that it’s gunners then shot down a Luftwaffe fighter that came in close to escort it down to land?

The story goes that the Luftwaffe unit was so incensed by the “false surrender” that they then singled out the 100th BG by their tail insignia, and hit them hard whenever they found them.

I have never looked into this – maybe the story is true, maybe it’s not…maybe the bomber concerned suffered undercarriage failure (and lowering) due to battle damage rather than due to crew action, and thus was not intentionally surrendering….who knows?

As to whether any units in the Luftwaffe would actually take pains to single out any particular unit in the heat of battle over their homeland – sounds like a story that grew up around the 100th BG, possibly as a result of a few overactive imaginations within the BG crews?

Don’t get me wrong, no disrespect intended, those guys (and all bomber crews) deserve, and get, my utmost respect, but the story as I have seen it seems a bit vague, and is often reported second or third hand, rather than based on hard fact.

Paul F

For us up market readers…

I,ve seen a few “Commando” and “Battle” comics with that story.

I read the book about 3 years ago, but I can’t for the life of me remember the name right now. Pretty certain it was a B-24, and that after the incident the Luftwaffe singled their unit out for special attention and the crew was ostracised.