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Who is this Hurricane pilot?

Can anyone identify the pilot and the occasion (time, place) when this photo was taken?
This photo has been published with a caption saying this is the Polish ace Stanislaw Skalski, but I am positive that’s not him.

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By: VoyTech - 4th March 2011 at 10:56

Thanks a lot Mark!

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By: JT442 - 3rd March 2011 at 23:42

All I can add is that it is NOT Leconfield….

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By: shepsair - 3rd March 2011 at 22:58

jack ross

I am 90% certain it is Jack Ross.

I have other photos.

Will have to find them.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 3rd March 2011 at 17:42

Thanks BS.

I agree. The only pics I have ever seen of pilots in any period of 1940 they are always wearing the flat-fronted chamois covered efforts. I’m pretty sure the black pattern didn’t really start to appear until 1941. But……..!

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By: bananasplits - 3rd March 2011 at 17:29

41 Pattern Mike

Hi

The 41 pattern mike was officially issued in October 1940 and so in theory could have been used in the Battle of Britain but in practice it didn`t come into widespread use until 1941.

I have never seen a picture of a 41 pattern mike in use during the Battle of Britain.

BS:)

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By: Arabella-Cox - 3rd March 2011 at 14:13

Mark

There is certainly an uncanny resemblance!

The blast pen behind certainly looks very “Russian”, although there were very similar structures at Warmwell and I have (somewhere) some pics of Whirlwinds at Warmwell in very similar pens.

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By: shepsair - 3rd March 2011 at 13:48

jack ross

Looking at the background – do I see stubby birth trees, small hills and then posts which could be the construction of the aircraft hides.

Makes me think it is Jack Ross.

Perhaps Cotswold Tim would ID him (being 134Sqn and in Russia as well).

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By: shepsair - 3rd March 2011 at 13:46

pilot in Hurricane

When I looked at it I thought it was F/Lt Jack Ross – 17 Sqn and then 134 Sqn. Lost over the Irish Sea when his engine failed (based in Northern Ireland).

http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/sheppard/hurricanes/index.htm

Far right on picture of 134 Sqn

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By: Arabella-Cox - 3rd March 2011 at 12:54

I am pretty sure the oxygen mask microphone dates this as 1941, although I am not sure about specific dates in 1941 when this came into use – but hopefully someone with a more detailed knowledge of such things will be able to comment?

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By: VoyTech - 3rd March 2011 at 10:45

So could your Hurricane man be Paterek then??

Well, that depends on that Tangmere1940’s oxygen mask question. Paterek was killed on 27 March 1941.

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By: posart - 3rd March 2011 at 10:39

That guy photographed with Kellett and others was in all probability Sgt Edward Paterek.

Funnily enough I always thought that it didn’t look too much like Lapkowski from his official photo, despite all captions saying it was him!

So could your Hurricane man be Paterek then??

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By: VoyTech - 3rd March 2011 at 10:19

Its difficult to be sure, but he looks to be wearing a D-type oxygen mask with the black painted 10A/11994 microphone which, I think, would date this as 1941?

I am not familiar with such technicalities. Can you suggest a specific time in 1941 when this thing was introduced?

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By: VoyTech - 3rd March 2011 at 10:18

He has similarities to Sgt Antoni Siudak Killed at Northolt, October 6, 1940.

Yes, there seems to be a similarity. Now, to my knowledge, Siudak flew Hurricanes from Leconfield, Duxford and Northolt. The background of this photo somehow doesn’t tie up with Northolt or Duxford for me, but I am much less familiar with Leconfield.

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By: VoyTech - 3rd March 2011 at 10:14

There is a resemblance to Waclaw Lapkowski, have you ruled him out already? There is a famous sequence of press photos of him with Kellet and a couple of other pilots, in them he’s wearing the same type of helmet and goggles and he’s just as glum!

Hmmm, you’re entering dangerous ground here, Mark. When that famous sequence of photos were taken at Leconfield in late 1940, Waclaw Lapkowski was recovering from his wounds in a hospital. I am ashamed to say it was only very recently (something to do with the 70th anniversary of BoB) that I realised that. That guy photographed with Kellett and others was in all probability Sgt Edward Paterek.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 2nd March 2011 at 20:33

No….

Its just one of the rejected proof pages from that book! :eek::p

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By: paulmcmillan - 2nd March 2011 at 20:17

Who had face matching software a la CSI and Spooks

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By: Mark12 - 2nd March 2011 at 19:45

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Mark12/xxxpseudo-Skalski.jpg

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By: Arabella-Cox - 2nd March 2011 at 19:39

Its difficult to be sure, but he looks to be wearing a D-type oxygen mask with the black painted 10A/11994 microphone which, I think, would date this as 1941?

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By: northeagle - 2nd March 2011 at 19:22

He has similarities to Sgt Antoni Siudak Killed at Northolt, October 6, 1940. Photo from Men of BoB.

Robert.

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By: Phantom Phil - 2nd March 2011 at 18:45

55 OTU

What were the reasons behind a person thinking it was 55 OTU? 55 OTU was based at RAF Usworth, Tyne & Wear by the way, just for your records..

I have posted the same question on other forums, and two different suggestions were put forward:
1) 55 OTU
2) Russia

Does that ring any bells?

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