July 16, 2005 at 12:29 pm
I have twice been scheduled to fly a wide-tri in recent years and both times, the flight details have changed close to departure. I have never flown a wide bodied tri-jet.
The first time, in 1997, I was due tofly Air Nordic (I think) on a tri-star from Newcastle to Malaga. The flight had been running all summer with very poor time keeping, but I didn’t care. Three weeks before my flight, the tour operator pulled the airline and put us on a BD F70. Hell of a difference in size I know and a hell of a disappointment. (The TS was due to pick up more passengers in Manchester, but the replacement F70 went direct).
In 2003, on a trip to New York, I deliberately picked a route that could get me on a DC10; essentially NW were running the AMS to EWR service. Several weeks after bookingr, KLM took over the route with their rather bland 767s and I was scuppered again.
Now, in September I am off to Houston and Boston with work. I got my itinerary through yesterday and it shows my KLM flight from Boston to AMS is actually a flight operated by NW on one of their DC10s. Imagine my joy! Will I finally get on a old 3 holer before their disappear? Lets hope its third time lucky.
Anyway, I wondered if any of you guys had experienced flying NW DC10s and if so what were they like? If not, what about your other flight experiences on wide 3 holers?
All contributions welcome…..
By: tommyinyork - 21st July 2005 at 13:14
I have flown on a Caledonian L1011 G-BBAE both ways i think in 1999 MAN-TFS and TFS-MAN, lovely sound on the beast i remember the start up on the monster a nice humming sound from the back. Inflight was very noisy at the rear and the interior of the aircraft was very tatty and rattly but very enjoyable. The luggage holders had been removed in the middle and there was one big cinema screen at the front.
I loved that aircraft, best ever one i flew on 🙂
By: Pembo330 - 21st July 2005 at 08:31
Hmm, the 727. I haven’t flown on one for years, the last ones being Dan Air examples back in 91 I think.
By: steve rowell - 21st July 2005 at 03:21
I had many flights on 727 (that’s a three holer isn’t it? :)) ( AF, DL etc)
I’ve had umpteen flights on all models of the 727 with Ansett, TAA, United, American and Braniff
By: Pablo - 21st July 2005 at 00:07
Have only ever flown on TriStars (British Airtours, Caledonian and Air Atlanta Icelandic). I really enjoyed the experience; much better than flying on a 757, 767 or A300. Tri-jets will obviously seem old these days but they are classic airctaft from a golden era in my opinion.
By: wannabe pilot - 20th July 2005 at 23:20
My worst 2 commercial flight experiences were on three-holers (out of 84 flights in the past 10 years). They belonged to AOM, and we were flying to/from Havana to LGW. The main problem on the inbound flight was the broken air conditioning which wouldn’t turn off, and only a few lucky passengers requested blankets in time. The rest of us spent 9 hours shivering. Very poor crew and service, screaming kids, poor leg room and untidy aircraft. Ugh, never again.
However, my other three-holer experience was on a Delta MD-11 N813DE a few years back from LGW-ATL, and that was a very pleasent experience. No real IFE, but atleast it was tidy and we had a friendly crew.
By: HP81 - 20th July 2005 at 22:31
The DC10 is still my favourite long haul jet, quiet & comfortable. I have flown on Laker, THY, Continental, Northwest Orient & BA examples. BA had the tidiest examples.
Flew a return LGW-ATL Delta Tristar, noisy, dirty machines. Have also done several trips on MD11’s but they were all freighters so I couldn’t really compare them, the ride was pretty much identical to the DC10F though.
By: Tigerotor77W - 20th July 2005 at 02:35
Been on a few… DC10-30 (UA) once, and four MD11 trips on China Eastern. The DC10 trip was Chicago to San Francisco; don’t remember much as it was both a long time ago and a trip on which I slept quite a bit. The MD11s I didn’t think much of; I know the China Eastern FAs liked them quite a bit. I don’t remember specific noise levels or anything specific that I didn’t like, but I think it was louder than the A340 I was on this summer.
By: Whiskey Delta - 19th July 2005 at 13:27
I remember flying on a DC-10 twice. Once from CLE-ORD on United and another from LGW-EWR on Continental. The United flight was part of an early morning positioning flight that United use to do so there were maybe 50 passengers on board. Everyone had their own aisle. 🙂
I’m pretty sure I’ve been on an L-1011 before but I don’t remember the airline or route. I believe it may have been on Delta from ATL-LGW and Eastern from NYC to Florida somewhere but I was pretty young for both those flights.
By: steve rowell - 19th July 2005 at 05:44
Congratulation for your 10000’s Steve 🙂
Thanks my friend, it just goes to show how much spare time i have on my hands, doesn’t it
By: dartie - 18th July 2005 at 12:23
My only experience was on an Alitalia flight from FCO-HKG flying the MD-11 pretty smooth comfortable experience i found.
By: Hand87_5 - 18th July 2005 at 12:16
The last flight i had was in a thirty year old AA DC10 between SanFrancisco and Honolulu, and the aircraft was in pristine condition
Congratulation for your 10000’s Steve 🙂
By: steve rowell - 18th July 2005 at 11:11
Some good thoughts and opinions there folks, thanks.
You know what, if I do make the flight, then I’m not expecting comfort, a quiet cabin, great entertainment etc. What I’m expecting is a tired cabin, old fashioned entertainment and rattly bumpy old ride. 🙂
The last flight i had was in a thirty year old AA DC10 between SanFrancisco and Honolulu, and the aircraft was in pristine condition
By: Pembo330 - 18th July 2005 at 10:39
Some good thoughts and opinions there folks, thanks.
You know what, if I do make the flight, then I’m not expecting comfort, a quiet cabin, great entertainment etc. What I’m expecting is a tired cabin, old fashioned entertainment and rattly bumpy old ride. 🙂
By: Hand87_5 - 18th July 2005 at 08:03
I had many flights on 727 (that’s a three holer isn’t it? :)) ( AF, DL etc)
I flew DC10’s mainly on UTA back aroun 89 , 90. Once with NW
I flew twice on DL MD11 a few years back.
Unfortunately I never flew on any Tristar.
By: DME - 18th July 2005 at 07:55
I’ve not flown in the DC-10, but I’ve flown in a MD-11. I thought the MD-11 was a nice modern aircraft.
dme
By: paulc - 18th July 2005 at 06:54
Have flown on a Laker DC10 (G-AZZC) PMI-LGW 1982 + American LGW-DFW-LGW + DFW-ORD-Toronto + NW DC10 (the 30’s series are ex Swissair) SEA-MSP + Washington – AMS, Caledonian L1011 LGW-Lyon, BA L1011 LHR-CDG, Delta L1011 MIA-ATL.
By: steve rowell - 17th July 2005 at 03:17
Ah!! we’re talking about my favorite aircraft, the ubiquitous DC10. I flown on American, United, Continental, National, and Air NewZealand 10’s, and enjoyed every flight immensely
By: T5 - 16th July 2005 at 22:35
My last and probably the only tri-jet experience I can remember is the JMC DC-10s back in August 2000 on a long-haul flight to the Dominican Republic and back. I flew on G-GKOT outbound and G-LYON inbound.
Both aircraft were very tatty inside and were really showing signs of their age. Video equipment was terrible, seats were broken (one of ours was stuck in the recline position) and the air conditioning in the overhead panels leaked an awful lot onto the passengers below.
Hated the experience. To trade in the DC-10s for A330s is the best decision JMC made! 😎
By: LBARULES - 16th July 2005 at 21:09
Been on an Air Atlanta Tristar (TF-ABU), subbing for a Monarch A300 MAN-LCA, was hoping for it on the way home, but G-OJMR turned up :(.
Superb flight of what I can remember of it, was in May 1999, I remember the a/c been extremely tidy, and the crew really friendly.
Would really like to get on another threeholer, maybe I will have to book NW from AMS to the US sometime in the distant future :D.
Hope you get the DC10 Pembo, your new job certianly is taking you all over the world!
By: bmi-star - 16th July 2005 at 19:28
Sadly never tasted a widebody trijet, been on a 727 many a time, tho those arent widebodies :p