Will a Ju-88 Ever Fly Again?

A Dora-9 would complement the Hairywaffe perfectly, of course (not that I’m dropping hints to people with more money and aeroplanes than me or anything…:diablo:).

Gods, I’m greeeeen with envy!

Adrian

Hi Hairyplane,

Is there any chance a a few photos of you FW190D project?

Many thanks in hopeful anticipation, Steve.

213’s

Hard to imagine that an engine recovered from the ground could ever fly again. However, I wish White One the best of luck with it.

Somebody said to me the other day – ‘I now know where the entire worlds (available) supply of 213’s is. It here in this room’.

Thanks for the U Tube link, I have seen it. I reckon that the canopy on it came from my Dominic Winter sale? I kept the best one!

If you want to see my 213’s and other 190/ 801 parts – no problem. They are in Banbury, Oxon.

HP

I have 6 ultra rare Jumo 213’s, one of which is 100% complete on a stand, another in a crate. A further 4 would supply plenty of spares to keep these 2 potential fliers running for many years to come.

So, if you want to do a D9…..!

Hairyplane.

Maybe you should contact this group. They might need your crate motor and a spare. (That’s Drutschmann’s grandson in the video. The resemblance is astounding–just put a uniform on him.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr_8cmQl7Ys

Also, White1 plans to start a D-9 when the F-8 is finished. They have 2 engines (they look like they were dug up) and are a long way from starting.

Or maybe Tom Blair will get tired of the Allison in the FlugWerk D-9 after it flies.:diablo:

Jumo’s

I have 6 ultra rare Jumo 213’s, one of which is 100% complete on a stand, another in a crate. A further 4 would supply plenty of spares to keep these 2 potential fliers running for many years to come.

So, if you want to do a D9…..!

Hairyplane.

I remember pictures of it running up at Wattisham- never saw it with air under its wheels though!

Pretty sure it has, pictures appeared in FlyPast some time ago I seem to remember.

how many actual BoB 109 are there flying you have to look at it that way

Just one. Ed Russell’s in Canada. Although the Flying Heritage Collection aircraft is flyable – dunno if it has actually flown, though.

A pile of seriously crashed metal.

Without original drawings (they dont exist), or a straight airframe, you would seriously struggle to do anything with that lot!

Bruce

Whoops, wrong link…

Try this one:

http://www.warbirdfinders.co.uk/parts_JU88-various_gallery1.htm

those two 88s are still in the UK and still for sale, I linked to them previously and I’ll link them again….

http://www.warbirdfinders.co.uk/parts_JU88-various_gallery1.htm

FB

So there is an issue with the spar-carrier thru’s so what can’t be any more difficult then rebuilding the Spar on a Corsair and there are two different groups starting production on these. So if they can do the Corsair which is very complicated then doing the carrier thru shouldn’t be to hard since were not talking about compound curves.

What ever happen to the two 88s that were pulled out of Russia.

I suppose it depends what definition of direct-injection everybody uses.

To my understanding direct-injection means that the fuel (petrol, diesel or whatever) is injected directly into the combustion chamber as opposed to any part of the induction system. Ignition is still initiated by a spark-plug.

A few years ago I would have said it was nonsense to think of a JU 88 flying again, I think Tischler and his 190s and 262s has proved that these things are in the realms of possibility now.

Re fuel injection on the engines,
They were definatly direct fuel injection, and were the first applications of this fairly precise technology. I believe there is an outfit in Germany that specialises in working on that period of injection kit.

Would love to think that one day this would happen but personaly I very much doubt it.
Has anybody checked out the work being done in Norway at JU88.net ?.
OK, they may not get them to fly but my hat goes of to those guys for the work being done there.

I don’t know off hand, but a genuine complete E with BofB History, you gotta be talking £750K+ I’d imagine and budget £500k for the rebuild. Ball park figures.

Not even close……

Purchase price – less

Restoration price – more, much, much more!

Bruce

As with any thing, its only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. Imagine you are an American collector who just must have a piece of history, the price could skyrocket even before restoration has begun. As for its value, thats entirely up to the individual. Assuming I win the lottery tonight, I would definately pay £1.2 mil for a 109E restored to flying condition, therefore most probably setting a precident for the future. However I wouldn’t pay £750k for the 109E on static at Duxford – but thats just me.

Funds I guess from this sale would cover the recovery costs and go to fund further projects he has.

And no, i don’t know what the Ju88 asking price is!!!

sorry for going off topic. Just one more question. Is the recovery cost a big factor in £750k or does the history have a big effect on price. And If this is so. If you restored the aircraft to airworthy status. This would actually devalue the aircraft through the loss of authenticity in the rebuild.

benyboy,

Any type of recover is going to be part of the over all price. now I’m not familure with this 109 but I can give you an idea about the T-6 that I’m looking at recovering. My aircraft is a C model and very early C model one of the first 100 build. Now its on private land and I have to get permission from the land owner complie with all State and Local EPA laws file the proper paperwork pay for the Heavy Lift and Lory to haul my price back to my back yard. I’m lucky I have a friend who is going to let my use his Heavy Lift for just gas and I have a Lory that can haul said aircraft but it still is going to cost me around 1000 USD for the move plus this doesn’t take into the permit that I will have to get to move it down the Highway and the Police Escort that I will need to get. So what is the cost really well like I said its an early C model and by what I understand from folks would make it one of the 20 Oldest T-6 Airframes left this aircraft also has another history two very famous pilots flew in it Hap Arnold and Chuck Yeager so what is the real value you tell me.

To me that History alone make it worth a little more then most other T-6, so with that in mind I would say a BoB 109E would stand to be worth a tad more then a 109f mind you can you pin down some of the pilots who flew it and was it part of any of the Famous BoB German Squadrons if so then yes you have to add in the Historical Value to the cost. As to restore it back to airworthy status in my thinking it would actually add to the over all cost of the aircraft, how many actual BoB 109 are there flying you have to look at it that way

sorry for going off topic. Just one more question. Is the recovery cost a big factor in £750k or does the history have a big effect on price. And If this is so. If you restored the aircraft to airworthy status. This would actually devalue the aircraft through the loss of authenticity in the rebuild.

I don’t know off hand, but a genuine complete E with BofB History, you gotta be talking £750K+ I’d imagine and budget £500k for the rebuild. Ball park figures.