[updated:LAST EDITED ON 15-02-03 AT 09:34 PM (GMT)]I dont get to travel that much on passenger jets but each time I do I always seem to get the one window that is scratched to b*gg*ry and causes problems when you want to take pictures…!. I can focus ‘through’ the marks but they do get in the way ! (see first piccie…next two are better )
Can any one tell me why the scratches run up and down instead of side to side ?.
I would have thought that all marks would be from side to side due to the planes speed throught the air or is it something simple like window cleaners doing the damage during turn arounds / maintenance ?
What do you reckon ?
Cheers
Gary
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By: EGNM - 18th February 2003 at 13:35
RE: Window scratches
Thanks for that GD!
By: geedee - 18th February 2003 at 10:23
RE: Window scratches
Steven
Nope. The only passenger transport that the RAF use with rearward seating that I know of is the VC10…bladdy wierd sensation it is too on take off, you feel the seat leave you behind and then when the guy in front pulls the stick back and you feel like you are gonna fall out !!
The Tristars have the seat facing the normal way. My prefered one is the Tristar Freighter cos there are a lot less seats across the fuselage and as a result you have a nice gap between your seat and the window so you can store all your gubbins there instead of under the seat. Having said that, when the taps are opened on the VC10 and it roars off down the runway, it dont half make a racket especially when you are in between the hangars and it echoes around…you dont just hear it, you feel it as well Lovely stuff !
Micheal
No, I’m not in the services but am a Civil Servant…well mostly civil…some of the time…!…and as a result get to fly on the troopers (Tristars, VC10’s etc) on trips back to the UK and back here
cheers
Gary
By: T5 - 18th February 2003 at 00:25
RE: Window scratches
geedee – what do you do for a career? Obviously something military. Thought I’d ask because my dad was up at RAF Brize Norton today, although he’s in the Army.
By: EGNM - 17th February 2003 at 22:18
RE: Window scratches
do the RAF tristar still have rearward facing seats – i think more sched ailines should adopt the pattern as it looks much safer!
By: geedee - 17th February 2003 at 16:21
RE: Window scratches
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 17-02-03 AT 04:24 PM (GMT)]Yup, ’twas a Tristar allright.
We call ’em the Trooper out here and the piccies where taken on the flight back to Cyprus last time I was in the UK.
The bottom piccie was taken just climbing out over the Solent from Brize…you can just see the Isle of Wight in the background.
Still not convinced about the upward airflow theory tho’. That wouldnt explain the scratches on the windows at the front of the fuselage or at the back (Except the loo window which is inevitably covered in a frosted pattern for some obscure reason…cant think what at the mo’)and surely the fuselage skin would get shotblasted the same way ?
Cheers
Gary
By: GZYL - 17th February 2003 at 13:50
RE: Window scratches
Has to be a TriStar.
By: EGNM - 17th February 2003 at 12:30
RE: Window scratches
yea just noticed that! – Tristar??
By: Ren Frew - 17th February 2003 at 12:18
RE: Window scratches
Is that an airforce jet you were on Geedee ? It looks like an RAF roundel on the wing ?
By: KabirT - 17th February 2003 at 07:11
RE: Window scratches
You see if you see carefuly around the wing area there is a little bulge in desgin, also the wing structure with the leading flaps is such which thrusts the wind a little upwards. This provides protection against turbulance.
By: LGKR - 16th February 2003 at 20:32
RE: Window scratches
nice one…
the scatches on windows are something that most of us will have commented on at one point or another on a flights, its always something i’ve notcied but never made the effort to find out the cause!
By: geedee - 16th February 2003 at 20:27
RE: Window scratches
Kabir, thanks for that.
So what you are saying is the fuselage is in effect generating lift hence the upward airflow ??…or am I totally on the wrong track ?
I would have thought that the airflow would be predominantly front to rear of the fuselage with little or no upward flow. I know that airliners and probably most other planes come to that, fly at an angle of attack of around 3 degrees, but that wouldnt explain the scratches running at almost 90 degrees to the horizontal.
Can you expand a bit more on your reply ?.
Cheers
Gary
By: KabirT - 16th February 2003 at 07:14
RE: Window scratches
Because at that speed the wind due to the design of the aircraft cuts slanting upwards.
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