Wright Gipsy Engine

Here is some scan extracts from my Moth Aircraft Corporation Brochure for the “DH Gipsy Moth”, as this 25 page brochure makes mention of MAC being owned by Curtiss Wright, it too must be a 1929 vintage production, yet it is clearly at odds with the other 8 page example?

A google search on the Wright Gipsy powered DH60GMW Gipsy / “Gypsy” Moths led me to this zombie thread and the earlier conversation that I was participating in, I am intrigued by @Barnstormers 1930 “Gypsy Moth” brochure but wonder if that might be a “typo” by the Marketing Dept as an earlier 1929 Moth Aircraft Corporation DH60 Brochure and 1929 Curtiss-Wright Gipsy Engine manual I have in my collection both use the classic DH spelling of Gipsy, but I do note he refers to other original Curtiss-Wright documents also using “Gypsy”?

Will he be awarding marks out of ten…………….?!!!!!!

Planemike

Correspondence has been forwarded to “Rusty Tack” for further investigation!

Let’s face it, the Americans have never been particular about their spelling of the English language!:rolleyes:

G’day 😉

Here is a clip of one brochure cover and inside mention. The same spelling is used throughout all the documents in the Company files on their Moth.. BUT* it appears that the commercial advertisements in the contemporary U.S. Magazines used the “Gipsy” spelling. So it gets pretty confusing. If you looked in the Curtiss Wright Company Files for “Gipsy” you would not find them…

That is the ad I was referring to Mark. Perhaps the de Havilland executives “assumed” that Curtiss Wright would keep the same spelling. But every Curtiss Wright document, report and brochure I have, (their Original company files, not copies) has the “Gypsy” spelling (in many, many places).
Perhaps something else to raise a few blood pressures, is that Curtiss Wright also uses the “De Havilland” rather than the “de Havilland” spelling in all its reports and brochures..:dev2:

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Interestingly this british Advertisement in Flight constantly refers to it being a gIpsy and that it will be called the “Wright Gipsy”.

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1929/1929%20-%200061.html

regards

Mark Pilkington

Wright Gypsy

Hope the following info is interesting.
I used to have an engine with the “Wright Gypsy” engine data plate on it. will see if I can find it, as it was in PRE-Internet days..

Interesting facts about the Gypsy Moth:

Yes. That IS the correct spelling, ff you are referring to the 176 Moths that were license-built in the U.S
The Moth Aircraft Corp was incorporated in 1928 in Delaware. It started manufacturing in 90,000 feet of leased space in Massachussets. Production transferred to Curtiss Wright Company, Robertson, (St. Louis) Missouri
1929 sales were $368, 862.51
Even So! The Moth Aircraft Corp. suffered a net loss of $271,597.16 in 1929!
1931 (Depression) sales were $9,975
They ceased to exist as a corporation in 1933. At the time of dissolution, Curtiss Wright owned 99.86 percent of the “A” stock.
Curtiss Wright produced a profusely illustrated ten page brochure/catalogue for various versions of its “DH Gypsy Moth” biplane, including a version on EDO twin seaplane floats, and offered many options. Handley-Page slots were $240 additional, a compass was $57. Also Offered were a Coupe top and cockpit heaters. They were powered by “85-100 H.P. Wright Gypsy Engine.”
Reference source: Original production, accounting reports, brochures, and files from the Curtiss Wright Corporation, in my file cabinets
**It is interesting to note the spelling in the ad in Jan 1929 Flight for the engine, stating, “It will be called the
“WRIGHT GIPSY.” My (and Curtiss Wright) spelling as “GYPSY” is repeatedly used in the Curtiss Wright Original file records and accounting and production and sales reports, as well as the fine quality brochure/catalogue. I have not checked in 1929-1933 U.S. aviation periodicals to see if they used that spelling in their published ads, at the time.

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These US built Gipsy engines come up occasionally on the barnstormers site, http://barnstormers.com/cat.php, you can place wanted ads in the “piston engine” “Wright” section.

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1929/1929%20-%200061.html

The earlier ADC Cirrus engine was also built for the Moth in the US as the ACE Cirrus.

These also occasionally surface on barnstormers.

Regards

Mark Pilkington

I am only a part time student of de Havilland history, and there is a hell of a lot to learn!

The Moth series is a little outside of my area of interest – that’s my excuse anyway!

Thanks for the info.

Bruce

As ever, this forum continues to educate me and suspect others as well…….!

Planemike

There certainly was a Wright Gipsy, I have one sitting on the floor in the workshop currently. It is destined for a Wright Gipsy Moth.

You may want to check this reference from the Flight Global archive.

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1929/1929%20-%200061.html

You represent the DH museum &
don’t know that
WRIGHT made the gipsy!!
opposite direction & less power

Is that the ‘right’ engine, or the ‘Wright’ engine….?

No ‘Wright’ Gipsy’s as far as I am aware

Bruce