WW1 aircraft survivors?

The two local aeroplanes I added to the list have been sold by their elderly owner.
I’ll try to provide a new location by state, but being privately owned, I don’t know if I’ll get the new owners names…or if I do whether I’d be comfortable sharing them in this rather public forum.

Plus, there is a new local Standard J-1 project, I don’t know if it has an identity. It’s being restored to flight, so it will be virtually all-new, the only exceptions will be the metal fittings. Since i know the owner, I’ll ask permission to post his name.

I thought one of the BE2s he owns is an original. The problem is where do you draw the line, some are ment to contain original parts.

Those aren’t ‘survivors’.
Kermit Week’s 1 1/2 Strutter is now with The Vintage Aviator Ltd, NZ (swapped for a repro Albatros + refurbing Kermit’s engine for it).
The ‘Peter Jackson’ entries above should be TVAL. I think the Omaka AHC one is TVAL owned as well (and lent to Omaka AHC, like many of their exhibits).

Because of their nature original WWI aircraft rarely change hands, most are in national collections and the like. Having said that, there are always exceptions to this such as the recent departure of the RAF Museum’s Hanriot and Farman project to New Zealand. I agree, an update would be nice.

Also we have Peter Jackson building / restoring WWI aircraft now.

Because of their nature original WWI aircraft rarely change hands, most are in national collections and the like. Having said that, there are always exceptions to this such as the recent departure of the RAF Museum’s Hanriot and Farman project to New Zealand. I agree, an update would be nice.

This definatly needs an update, i cant believe this has been 5 years.

I’ve just stumbled across this fascinating thread while researching info to update my logs.

A huge amount of effort went in to creating this list, but it hasn’t been updated for 5 years now and there must have been some changes to locations, or there may be more information available on known aircraft?
There may possibly even be some additions?

Or, in the last 5 years has a really good website on the subject appeared and this list is no longer relevant?

Just wondering…..

Willow

Sea Hawk, The Windsock Datafile, which, incidentally is No. 103, and not as I originally stated, provides the following information on South African DH 6’s

“Two DH6’s were taken to South Africa by F H Solomon, who traded as Cape Coast Resorts Aviation, but crashes brought an end to the company in 1921.” (p. 25)

An appendix on p. 33 identifies the DH 6’s as
G-EAMK, former C9448 “Crashed in South Africa 1921.”
G-EAML, former C9449 “Crashed in South Africa. Now in SAAF Museum.”

Incidentally, the appendix gives the owner’s name as F H Soloman.

As for other surviving DH 6 relics, one propeller was advertised in 2006 as being for sale for £ 1 750.

Regards,

Jan

The surviving DH6 in South Africa, consists of a number of parts from C9449, & appears to be very broken up & incomplete, the most recogniseable parts are the tail feathers, I believe that the remains were recovererd from the loft of a barn, where they had been stored since it crashed on a beach in the 20’s & are now stored in a shipping container near to the museum.

Any attempted rebuild will be greatly hampered by the lack of drawings.

I seem to remember hearing of some wing components being found a few years ago, that were thought to be DH6, any idea’s where they might have gone to ?.

Bob. T

http://www.fsnordic.net/discussion/index.php/topic,74570.new.html

I found info that Thulin Typ D – F1 at the Keski-Suomen Ilmailumuseo is more than a part-replica, only the engine is from the original plane.

Thulin Typ D “F4” arrived in Finland on 18th March 1918. Was destroyed on 28th March 1918 at Orivesi. The plane was “restored” with spare parts from an other Thulin (F1) and remainings of “F4” in 1938 and was displayed at expedition in Helsinki organized by Suomen Ilmapuolustusliitto. The plane went missing after that and was “found” in 1955 from Suomenlinna outside Helsinki.

So the Keski-Suomen Ilmailumuseo has partly replica “F1” and the “F4” is probably going to Suomen Ilmailumuseo in Vantaa. The fuselage is from “F4” and the “wing” from “F1”. Photo by Pentti Hyvärinen.

Martti

I am slowly starting to recover from our house move and am able to start devoting a little time to finishing the project off. This is where we currently stand, as ever any comments/corrections/additions welcomed:

BRITISH DESIGNED AIRCRAFT

DH4

N489 NMUSAF, Dayton, Ohio (composite of two aircraft)
652 The Aviation Heritage Center, Omaka, Blenheim , New Zealand
N3258 Evergreen Museum, McMinnville, Oregon (loaned from Museum of Flight, Seattle)
21959 National Air & Space Museum, US
???? National Museum of the US Marine Corps, Quantico, Virginia (part original)
???? Kermit Weeks – 4 No????
???? San Diego Air and Space Museum
???? Peter Jackson

Note – DH4s still to be disaggregated by type

DH9

DH9
F1258 Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, Le Bourget, Paris (high degree of originality)
F1287 Canberra, ACT, Australia
D5649 Aero-Vintage Ltd, St Leonards-on-Sea for IWM
E8894 Aero-Vintage Ltd, St Leonards-on-Sea for HAC Duxford
????? Fort Bikaner, India
????? South Africa Museum of Military History???

DH9A
F1010 RAFM Hendon (rebuilt from partial remains)

Avro 504

ex-504J
B3182 Weeks Air Museum, Miami

504K
E448 Keski-Suomen Ilmailumuseo (Aviation Museum of Central Finland), Tikkakoski
‘E449’ RAFM Hendon
H2453 Canadian Aviation Museum, Rockcliffe
H2174 Australian War Museum, Canberra
‘H2311’ Museum of Science and Industry, Manchester
H5199 Shuttleworth Collection, Old Warden
D7560 Science Museum, London
D8971 RCAF, CFB Borden
D9029 NMUSAF, Dayton, Ohio
‘ZK-ACU’ Stuart Tantrum, Blenheim, New Zealand
????? Norwegian Aviation Centre, Bødo

504L
‘G-EASD’ Tony Ditherage? (assembled by Eastbourne Aviation in 1920 from surplus components)

BAT F.K.23 Bantam Mk.1

K-123 Aviodrome, Leystadt

Bristol F2B

‘E2466’ RAFM, Hendon (rebuild on original fuselage frame)
E2581 IWM, Duxford
D7889 Canadian Aviation Museum, Rockcliffe (rebuild using substantial original components on original fuselage frame)
‘D8084’ Peter Jackson, New Zealand (rebuild on original fuselage frame)
D8096 Shuttleworth Collection, Old Warden
‘J8264’ Brussels Aviation Museum (rebuild on original fuselage frame)
“AB21” Museo del Aire, Madrid
????? Peter Jackson, New Zealand (fuselage frame only)
????? Vintage Aviation Historical Foundation, Kingsbury, Texas (incomplete)

Bristol M1C

C5001 Captain Harry Butler Memorial, Minlanton, South Australia (composite of two aircraft C4964 & C5001)

Felixstowe F5L

A-3882 NASM, Silver Hill, Maryland (Hull only – built as display exhibit, original)

Martinsyde F.4 Buzzard

MA-24 Keski-Suomen Ilmailumuseo (Aviation Museum of Central Finland), Tikkakoski

BE2

BE2c
2699 IWM Lambeth
5878 Canadian Aviation Museum, Rockcliffe
9969 Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, Le Bourget, Paris (high degree of originality)

BE2e
A1325 Peter Jackson, New Zealand
F1380 Gardermoen Museum, Nr Oslo

RE8

F3558 IWM, Duxford (good degree of originality)
A4719 Brussels Aviation Museum

FE2b

No Serial RAFM, Safford (being constructed around original, unused, nacelle)

SE5

SE5A
C1916 Canberra, ACT, Australia
F904 Shuttleworth Collection, Old Warden
F937/’F-939′ Science Museum, London
F938 RAFM Hendon
F7781/F7783 National Museum of Military History, South Africa

SE5E (Eberhart):
“G-BLXT” (original identity?) Flying A services/Wizzard Investments, Greenham Common
“AS-22-325 NMUSAF, Dayton, Ohio

Short 184

8359 FAA Museum, Yeovilton (incomplete but highly original)

Sopwith Baby

‘N2078’ FAA Museum, Yeovilton (composite of 8214 & 8215)

Sopwith 1½ Strutter

1263 Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, Le Bourget, Paris
2897 Mémorial Flight Association, Cerny/La ferté Alais
S86 Brussels Aviation Museum
???? Kermit Weeks, Polk City, Florida (incomplete?)

Sopwith Pup

Original Pup:
B1807 Kelvin Baker, Winchcombe? (incomplete)
N5182 RAFM Hendon (rebuilt around substantial original components)
N5195 Museum of Army Flying, Middle Wallop

Converted Dove:
‘9917’ Shuttleworth Collection, Old Warden

Sopwith Triplane

N5486 The Aviation Museum, Monio, Moscow
N5912 RAFM Hendon

Sopwith Camel

F1:
B5747 Brussels Air Museum
F6314 RAFM Hendon
B6291 Al Letcher, Mojave, California (now sold?)
B7280 Narodowe Muzeum Lotnictw (Polish Aviation Museum), Krakow (incomplete)
“N6254” D&R Holbert, Aerospace, Little Rock, Arkansas

2F1:
N6812 IWM Lambeth
N8156 Canadian Aviation Museum, Rockcliffe

Sopwith Dolphin

D5329 RAFM Cosford (restoration incorporating little original material, in Michael Beetham Conservation Centre)

Sopwith Snipe

E6938 Canadian Aviation Museum, Rockcliffe
E8102 Canadian War Museum, Ottawa (Fuselage only but high degree of originality)
E8105 NASM, Smithsonian, Washington

Vickers Vimy

F8630 Adelaide Airport (repaired after fire damage)
BAPC.51(no serial No) Science Museum London (high degree of originality)

No Known Survivors (250+ Built)

DH2 (450 built)
DH5 (350 built)
DH6 (2,950 built)
Bristol Scout (381 built)
Handley Page O/400 (661 built)
Martinsyde G100/G102 (271 built)
FE8 (295 built)
BE12 (600 built)
Vickers FB5/FB9 (309 built)

FRENCH DESIGNED AIRCRAFT

Blériot XI

c/n1? Musée des arts et métiers, Paris
c/n 14 Shuttleworth Collection, Old Warden
c/n 16 Svedinos Bil-och Flygmuseum, Ugglarp, Sweden (Thulin built, under restoration from fuselage only)
c/n 56 Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome, New York State (rebuilt from partial fuselage remains)
c/n 82 Mikael Carlson, Löberöd, Sweden (Thulin built – “95% original”)
c/n 153 On loan to Cradle of Aviation Museum, Garden City, New York State
c/n 164 RAFM Hendon
c/n 246 Museo Storico dell’ Aeronautica Militare Italiana, Vigna di Valle
c/n 686 Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, Le Bourget, Paris
L611 Powerhouse Museum, Sydney
n/a NMUSAF, Dayton Ohio (privately built in period from factory drawings)
n/a Canadian Aviation Museum, Rockcliffe (privately built in period from factory drawings, fuselage only?)
n/a Svenska Tekniska Museet (modified Nyrop built version)
n/a The Collings Foundation, Stowe, Massachusetts (US built example, fitted with modern engine)
???? NASM, Smithsonian, Washington D.C
???? Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome, New York State (American Aeroplane Supply House built)
???? Brussels Aviation Museum (constructed around original pair of wings only)
???? US Army Aviation Museum, Fort Rucker, Alabama
???? Museo del Aire, Madrid (Vilanova built)
???? Verkehrshaus, Lucerne
???? Deutsches Museum, Munich
???? San Diego Aerospace Museum
???? New England Air Museum, Windsor Locks, Connecticut
???? Mikael Carlson, Löberöd, Sweden (Thulin built)
???? Norsk Teknisk Museum, Oslo

Breguet III

B1 Flygvapenmuseum (Swedish Air Force Museum), Linköping (rebuilt from crash wreck)

Breguet XIV A2

2016 Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, Le Bourget, Paris
3C30 Keski-Suomen Ilmailumuseo (Aviation Museum of Central Finland), Tikkakoski

Caudron G III

324 Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, Le Bourget, Paris
640 Museu Aeroespacial (Brazilian Air Force Museum) Rio de Janeiro
2531 Brussels Air Museum
3066 RAFM Hendon
1E18 Hallinportti Ilmailumuseo (Halli Aviation Museum), Finland
???? Historic Flight, Venezuela

Caudron G IV

1720 Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, Le Bourget, Paris
4262/2170 NASM, Washington Dulles

FBA Type B

203/N.2 Museu de Marinha, Lisbon (composite of N.1 and N.2)

Schreck FBA Type H

55 Brussels Aviation Museum

Hanriot HD 1

75 RAFM Hendon
78 Brussels Air Museum
515 Museo Storico dell’ Aeronautica Militare Italiana, Vigna di Valle
653? Fliegermuseum, Duebendorf
5934 Planes of Fame, Chino, California
???? Ecuadorian Air Force Museum, Quito (poor and non-authentic condition)

Maurice Farman S.7 Longhorn

‘1’ Norsk Teknisk Museum, Oslo
???? Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, Le Bourget, Paris
???? Kotsu Transportation Museum, Tokyo

Maurice Farman S.11 Shorthorn

266 National Science Museum, Tokyo
‘CFS-20’ RAAF Museum, Point Cook, Victoria (Composite of three aircraft, with 70% new)
‘VH-UBC’ Canadian Aviation Museum, Rockcliffe
???? Brussels Air Museum
???? JMSDF, in store at Hamamatsu Airbase?

Maurice Farman HF 20

???? Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, Le Bourget, Paris

Moraine-Saulnier AI

1567 Mémorial Flight Association, Cerny/La ferté Alais (Type XXIX)
1573 Kermit Weeks, Polk City, Florida
2283 Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, Le Bourget, Paris (reserve collection)
???? Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome, New York State
???? Museo Aeronautico, Montevideo (is it still in existence – major fire in 1998?)

Moraine-Saulnier BB

A301 RAFM Stafford (incomplete – fuselage & undercarriage)

Nieuport IV.G

M1 Flygvapenmuseum (Swedish Air Force Museum), Linköping

Nieuport 10

1467 Museo Nazionale della Scienza e della Tecnica, Milan

Nieuport 83

???? Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome, New York State

Nieuport XI C.1

556 Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, Le Bourget, Paris

Nieuport 12 A.2

1504 Canadian Aviation Museum, Rockcliffe

Nieuport 23 C.1

5024 Brussels Air Museum

Nieuport 28 C.1

14 Museum of Flight, Seattle
607 Fliegermuseum, Duebendorf
688 Verkehrshaus, Lucerne
6169 San Diego Air & Space Museum (constructed from composite of original parts)
6531 US Army Aviation Museum, Fort Rucker, Alabama
‘N4123A’ NASM, Washington Dulles (composite of at least five aircraft: 6497, 7103, 7226, 6465 & 6432)
???? Museo Nacional de Aeronáutica, Argentina (incomplete crash wreck)

Salmson 2A2

???? Kakamigara Aerospace Museum, Japan (small part of fuselage only – post war Japanese Otsu built example)

Spad VII C1

S153 Museo Storico dell’ Aeronautica Militare Italiana, Vigna di Valle
S248 Louis Blériot, GPPA, Angers (under restoration)
S254 Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, Le Bourget, Paris (high degree of originality)
S1420 Museo Storico dell’ Aeronautica Militare Italiana, Vigna di Valle (high degree of originality)
B9913 Canadian Aviation Museum, Rockcliffe (note shares identity with VAM example, little original material remaining and contains inaccuracies in its construction)
B9913 Virginia Aviation Museum, Richmond, Virginia (note shares identity with CAM example, built from parts left over from CAM example’s restoration, again contains little original material but better built than CAM example, original woodwork now sold on again, in Arlington, Washington State)
B9914 Kermit Weeks, (incomplete aircraft, wrecked by storm damage, now under rebuild)
B9916 San Diego Aviation Museum
S11583 Vojenske Muzeum (Czech Aviation Museum), Kbely
AS94099 NMUSAF, Dayton, Ohio

Spad XIII C1

SP49 Brussels Air Museum
S4377 Mémorial Flight Association, Cerny/La ferté Alais
S5295 Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, Le Bourget, Paris
S7689 NASM, Smithsonian, Washington
16594 NMUSAF, Dayton, Ohio
????? Museo Storico dell’ Aeronautica Militare Italiana, Vigna di Valle (restored as Spad VII)
????? Museo Storico dell’ Aeronautica Militare Italiana, Vigna di Valle (“remains” – how complete? In store)
????? Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, Le Bourget, Paris (fuselage and wings – in store)

Spad XVI

AS9392 NASM, Washington Dulles

Voisin L.A.5

V955 Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, Le Bourget, Paris
???? Brussels Air Museum (incomplete)
???? The Aviation Museum, Monio, Moscow

Voisin VIII

4640 NASM, Smithsonian, Washington

Voisin X Ca2

??? Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, Le Bourget, Paris (fuselage pod only, reserve collection)

No Known Survivors (250+ Built)

Dorand AR.1/AR.2 (??? built)
Moraine-Saulnier L/LA (600+ built)
Moraine-Saulnier P (565 built)
Nieuport 17C.1 (1,000+ built?)
Nieuport 24/27 (??? built)
Nieuport-Delage 29C.1 (??? built)

GERMAN DESIGNED AIRCRAFT

AEG G.IV

574/18 Canadian Aviation Museum, Rockcliffe

Albatros B.I

20.01 Heeresgeschichtliches Museum (Army Museum), Vienna

Albatros B.II

‘L30’ Narodowe Muzeum Lotnictw (Polish Aviation Museum), Krakow
756 Flygvapenmuseum (Swedish Air Force Museum), Linköping (built in 1925 by FVM in Sweden)

Albatros D.Va

5390/17 Australian War Museum, Canberra
7161/17 NASM, Smithsonian, Washington DC

DFW C.V

17077/17 Narodowe Muzeum Lotnictw (Polish Aviation Museum), Krakow

Fokker E.III

210/16 Science Museum, London (highly original but canvas stripped)

Fokker D.III

Serial number not known? Vienna Technical Museum

Fokker D.VII

2523/18 Militaire Luchtvaart Museum, Soesterberg, The Netherlands
‘4404/18’ Deutsches Museum, Munich (Modified post-war Dutch build)
4635/18 NASM, Smithsonian, Washington DC
6796/18 Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, Le Bourget, Paris
6810/18 Brome County Historical Society, Knowlton, Quebec (high degree of originality)
8417/18 RAFM Hendon
10347/18 Canadian Aviation Museum, Rockcliffe (kit of parts under restoration)

Fokker E.V/D.VII

????/18 Museo Gianni Caproni, Trento (fuselage & engine only, under restoration)

Halberstadt CL.II

15459/17 Narodowe Muzeum Lotnictw (Polish Aviation Museum), Krakow (incomplete)

Halberstadt CL.IV

8103/18 Deutsches Museum, Munich
‘D-4’ Deutches Auto-Museum, Schloss Langenberg
8103/18 NMUSAF, Dayton, Ohio (rebuilt in conjunction with other two survivors)
8130/18 NASM, Washington Dulles (assembled from original parts around original fuselage)
???? Deutsches Technikmuseum, Berlin (assembled from original parts around original fuselage)

Halberstadt C.V

3471/18 Brussels Aviation Museum (high degree of originality)

Junkers J.1

586/18 Canadian Aviation Museum, Rockcliffe

Junkers J.7 (D.1)

5929/18 Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, Le Bourget, Paris

LVG C.VI

3141/18 Brussels Aviation Museum
7198/18 RAFM, Cosford (Michael Beetham Conservation Centre)
9041/18 Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, Le Bourget, Paris (currently under restoration by the Mémorial Flight Association)

Pfalz D.X11

2558/18 or 2630/18 or 2740/18 NASM, Smithsonian, Washington DC
2558/18 or 2630/18 or 2740/18 Seattle Museum of Flight
2600/18 AWM Canberra
2690/18 Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, Le Bourget, Paris

Roland D.VIb

2225/18 Narodowe Muzeum Lotnictw (Polish Aviation Museum), Krakow (incomplete)

Rumpler C.IV

310/17 Deutsches Museum, Munich

Rumpler 6B

???? Hallinportti Ilmailumuseo (Halli Aviation Museum), Finland

Siemens-Schuckhert D.IV

[10114] Narodowe Muzeum Lotnictw (Polish Aviation Museum), Krakow (incomplete & converted into Albatross H.1)

No Known Survivors (250+ Built)

AEG C.IV (400 built)
Albatross D.II?
Albatross D.III
Fokker Dr.1 (318 built)
Hannover CL.III/CL.IIIa (617 built)
Pfalz D.III (c1075 built)
Roland D.II ??

AUSTRO-HUNGARIAN DESIGNED AIRCRAFT

Aviatik Berg D.I

101.37 Vienna Technical Museum (high degree of originality)
101.40 Museum of Flight, Seattle

Aviatik C.I

C.227/16 Brussels Aviation Museum (incomplete)

Aviatik C.III

???? Narodowe Muzeum Lotnictw (Polish Aviation Museum), Krakow (incomplete)

Etrich Taube/Rumpler Taube

‘A108/14’/A118/13 Deutsches Technikmuseum, Berlin
???? Vienna Technical Museum (Technisches Museum)
???? Luftwaffenmuseum, Berlin
???? Flugmuseum Aviaticum, Wiener Neustadt
???? Deutsches Museum, Munich
???? Norsk Teknisk Museum, on display at Forsvarets Flysamling, Gardermoen
???? Narodowe Muzeum Lotnictw (Polish Aviation Museum), Krakow (unrestored)

Knoller C.II

119.15 Nerodni Tecnické Museum, Prague

Hansa-Brandenburg D1

28.68 Nerodni Tecnické Museum, Prague (fuselage only)
10.21 Vojenske Muzeum (Czech Aviation Museum), Kbely (post war Aero Ae-10 – how genuine is this example?)

Hansa Brandenburg B.I

???? Budapest Aviation Museum

Hansa Brandenburg W.33

4.D.2 Suomen Ilmailumuseo (Finnish Air Museum), Vantaa (post war Finnish built IVL A.22, licence built to modified design)

Lloyd Prototype

40.01 Budapest Transport Museum

Lohner L-1

L-127 Museo Storico dell’ Aeronautica Militare Italiana, Vigna di Valle

Phönix D.III

947 Flygvapenmuseum (Swedish Air Force Museum), Linköping

ITALIAN DESIGNED AIRCRAFT

Ansaldo A 1 “Balilla”

MM16553 Museo del Risorgimento e del comune di Bergamo (under restoration by GAVS in Turin)

Ansaldo SVA-5

11721 Museo Storico dell’ Aeronautica Militare Italiana, Vigna di Valle
11777 Museo Gianni Caproni, Trento
????? ?, Peru (rebuilt (poorly) following crash – how genuine is this?)

Ansaldo SVA-9

13148 Aeritalia

Ansaldo SVA-10

12736 Il Vittoriale degli Italiani, Gardone Riveria
13164 Museo Nacional de Aeronáutica, Argentina (existence to be confirmed)

Caproni Ca.3

1 Museo Storico dell’ Aeronautica Militare Italiana, Vigna di Valle

Caproni Ca.20

23174 Museum of Flight, Seattle (high degree of originality)

Caproni Ca.36

2378 Museo Aeronautica Caproni di Taliedo, on loan to NMUSAF, Dayton, Ohio

Macchi M.7

945 Flygvapenmuseum (Swedish Air Force Museum), Linköping

MEXICAN DESIGNED AIRCRAFT

TNCA Type H

???? Mexican Air Force Collection

RUSSIAN DESIGNED AIRCRAFT

Anatra Anasalj

010.091 Nerodni Tecnické Museum, Prague

Grigorovich M-5

???? Turkish Air Force Museum, Izmar

Grigorovich M-15

???? Narodowe Muzeum Lotnictw (Polish Aviation Museum), Krakow

SWEDISH DESIGNED AIRCRAFT

Thulin typ D

F1 Keski-Suomen Ilmailumuseo (Aviation Museum of Central Finland), Tikkakoski (partial replica based around original fuselage)

Thulin typ G

G 11-15 Under restoration at Flygvapenmuseum (Swedish Air Force Museum), Linköping

Thulin typ N

?? Svenska Tekniska Museet, Stockholm

US DESIGNED AIRCRAFT

Curtiss JN-4D Jenny

JN-4C
C227 Canadian Aviation Museum, Rockcliffe
C308 Pioneer Flight Museum, Kingsbury, Texas
C496 Historic Aircraft Restoration Museum, St. Louis
C1122 Skeeter Carlson, Spokane, Washington State (high degree of originality)
1898 ????
4048 Anthony Morozowsky, Zanesville, Ohio (serial number indicates a JN-4D?)
10875 John Shue, York, Pennsylvania
39158 National Air Museum?
56618 ???? [CHECK IF GENUINE]
‘C-AAI’ Reynolds-Alberta Museum, (“80 % genuine”)
???? Cradle of Aviation Museum, Garden City, New York State (barn find restoration)
???? Tiger Boys Aeroplane Works & Flying Museum, Guelph, Ontario

JN-4D
D-51 Yanks Air Museum, Chino, California (displayed with canvas stripped)
278 Sold to??
396 San Diego Aerospace Museum
400??? James Smith, Fortine, Montana
450 Kenneth Hyde, on loan to Virginia Aviation Museum, Richmond, Virginia
490 Sold to?? [CHECK IF GENUINE]
A995 US Museum of Naval Aviation, Pensacola, Florida
A996 Museum of Flying, Santa Monica, California
1321 Franklin Root, Staunton, Virginia
1350 Warp Pioneer Villiage Museum, Minden, Nebraska
2421 Chicago Museum of Science & Industry (question mark whether this is genuine or a replica)
2525 owner unknown, Indiana
2780 US Museum of Army Aviation, Ozark, Alabama
2805 NMUSAF, Dayton Ohio
2844 ????
3233 ????
3229 Pioneer Flight Museum, Kingsbury, Texas [DUPLICATE?]
3712 Flying Heritage Collection, Arlington, Washington State
3973 John Johnson, Edmonton, Alberta
4904 EAA AirVenture Museum, Oshkosh, Wisconsin (composite of parts including wing from 5357 and JN-4A fuselage parts)
4983 NASM, Washington Dulles
5002 Hill Aerospace Museum, Utah (rebuilt)
5086 Glenn H Curtiss Museum, Hammondsport, New York (under restoration)
5360 Kermit Weeks, Polk City, Florida (very original but badly damaged)
5361 Kenneth Hyde, Warrenton, Virginia
6062 Paul Dougherty, Bethel, Pennsylvania (under restoration at Golden Age Air Museum?)
8047 Paul Dougherty, Bethel, Pennsylvania (under restoration at Golden Age Air Museum?)
33779 Kenneth Hyde, Warrenton, Virginia
34091 Yanks Air Museum, Chino, California?
34094 Owls Head Transportation Museum, Maine
???? Museum of Flight, Seattle (little original material remaining)
???? US Army Center for Military History, on loan to College Park Aviation Museum, College Park, Maryland (barn find restoration)
???? Frontier Army Museum, Fort Leavenworth, Kansas
???? Yanks Air Museum, Chino, California – also have a third example?

JN-4H
3919 Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome, New York State (composite aircraft)
8644 Frank Schelling, Schellville, California

JN-4HG
A4160 National Museum of the US Marine Corps, Quantico, Virginia

Yet to classify:
???? ex-Gene Frank (2 No. kits of parts)
???? Aero Vintage Ltd, currently at AJD Engineering, Sudbury
???? Hiller Aviation Museum, San Carlos, California
???? Museum of Flying, Santa Monica, California
???? Fairbanks International Airport, Alaska
???? Denver International Airport

Curtiss NC-4

A2294 NASM, on loan to US Museum of Naval Aviation. Pensacola, Florida

Curtiss N-9H

???? NASM, Washington Dulles

LWF Model F Tractor

4 Nerodni Tecnické Museum, Prague

Packard Lepere Lusac

42133 NMUSAF, Dayton Ohio

Standard J1

581 Owls Head Transportation Museum, Maine
1000 James Hammond, Yellow Springs, Ohio
1141 NMUSAF, Dayton Ohio
1582 Kermit Weeks, Polk City Florida (composite of two aircraft)
1598 ????
1956 EAA AirVenture Museum, Oshkosh, Wisconsin
2969 Michael Cilurso, Schnecksville, Pennsylvania (assembled from original components – period kit)
4598 Pioneer Flight Museum, Kingsbury, Texas
‘N62505’ Historic Aircraft Restoration Museum, St. Louis
???? NMUSAF, Dayton Ohio (incomplete)
???? Henry Ford Museum, on loan to Glenn H Curtiss Museum, Hammondsport, New York
???? Golden Age Air Museum Bethel, Pennsylvania (off site under restoration)

Lincoln Standard HS
N1375 NASM, Washington Dulles

Standard E1

49128 Kermit Weeks, Polk City Florida
???? Virginia Aviation Museum, Richmond, Virginia

Thomas-Morse S4 Scout

S4B
4328 Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome, New York State

S4C
38898 Skeeter Carlson, Spokane, Washington State
38923 Pioneer Flight Museum, Kingsbury, Texas
38944 NMUSAF, Dayton Ohio
???? Cradle of Aviation Museum, Garden City, New York State
???? Pioneer Flight Museum, Kingsbury, Texas (fuselage & engine only?)

Doesn’t the RAF Museum have a Farman F.40 (at least the fuselage pod and engine) in store?

John

It seems that Keski-Suomen Ilmailumuseo has an other Thulin D in their collection (F2?). Finns received two Thulins in 1918 so both of them have survived! The now refounded plane is only a fuselage without wings, but I don’t know about the engine.

Rumpler CIV walkaround at the Deutsches Museum Munchen

Hello all,
i`ve added a walkaround gallery of the Rumpler CIV, exhibited at the Deutsches Museum Munchen, to my site:

http://www.idflieg.com/munchen_rumpler_civ.htm

hope this helps,
andi

Sea Hawk, The Windsock Datafile, which, incidentally is No. 103, and not as I originally stated, provides the following information on South African DH 6’s

“Two DH6’s were taken to South Africa by F H Solomon, who traded as Cape Coast Resorts Aviation, but crashes brought an end to the company in 1921.” (p. 25)

An appendix on p. 33 identifies the DH 6’s as
G-EAMK, former C9448 “Crashed in South Africa 1921.”
G-EAML, former C9449 “Crashed in South Africa. Now in SAAF Museum.”

Incidentally, the appendix gives the owner’s name as F H Soloman.

As for other surviving DH 6 relics, one propeller was advertised in 2006 as being for sale for £ 1 750.

Regards,

Jan

Thanks Jan, sounds like it is the same category as the Argentinian Nieuport 28 – will add it to the list annotated as a crash wreck pro tem.

Sea Hawk, The Windsock Datafile, which, incidentally is No. 103, and not as I originally stated, provides the following information on South African DH 6’s

“Two DH6’s were taken to South Africa by F H Solomon, who traded as Cape Coast Resorts Aviation, but crashes brought an end to the company in 1921.” (p. 25)

An appendix on p. 33 identifies the DH 6’s as
G-EAMK, former C9448 “Crashed in South Africa 1921.”
G-EAML, former C9449 “Crashed in South Africa. Now in SAAF Museum.”

Incidentally, the appendix gives the owner’s name as F H Soloman.

As for other surviving DH 6 relics, one propeller was advertised in 2006 as being for sale for £ 1 750.

Regards,

Jan

According to the Windsock Datafile on the DH 6 (No. 97, p. 33), C9449 (later G-EAML) is kept by the SAAF Museum. No idea if they have the complete aircraft, but if so, this would make it the sole remaining Airco DH 6.

Regards,

Jan

Thanks Jan – very exciting news! I cannot find any sniff of this on their website or their friends’ website or anywhere else so far. I have therefore emailed them and will let you know if I find out anything further (if I don’t I will have to revert to snail mail).

According to the Windsock Datafile on the DH 6 (No. 97, p. 33), C9449 (later G-EAML) is kept by the SAAF Museum. No idea if they have the complete aircraft, but if so, this would make it the sole remaining Airco DH 6.

Regards,

Jan

I’ve found another Jenny.

JN-4D
Cn-001 Western Aeroplane and Automobile Museum, Hood River, Oregon.
Said to have 90% of its original wood and original wires.
Airworthy.

BTW:
The museum is set to open Sept 7-9, at its 50,000 square foot facility 45 miles east of Portland Oregon on the Columbia River.
It currenty has 30 flying aircraft and another 25 under restoration. Emphasis is on American civil types produced between the wars.
It’s a registered non-profit organization established by farm equipment manufacturer Terry Brant, a long time pilot and restorer of antique aircraft.
WWW.WAAAmuseum.org

Thanks I’ll add it to the list. Keep ’em coming I am still making slow progress on the definative list and hope to post something that is about as close as we can manage in about two month’s time.

Another JN-4 found

I’ve found another Jenny.

JN-4D
Cn-001 Western Aeroplane and Automobile Museum, Hood River, Oregon.
Said to have 90% of its original wood and original wires.
Airworthy.

BTW:
The museum is set to open Sept 7-9, at its 50,000 square foot facility 45 miles east of Portland Oregon on the Columbia River.
It currenty has 30 flying aircraft and another 25 under restoration. Emphasis is on American civil types produced between the wars.
It’s a registered non-profit organization established by farm equipment manufacturer Terry Brant, a long time pilot and restorer of antique aircraft.
WWW.WAAAmuseum.org

FE2b

The “other monthly Historic Aviation periodical” reports that the FE2b is being prepared for a move to an external contractor for further work prior to fabricking and painting by the RAFM conservation centre at Cosford. It has apparently been worked upon at a workshop in Southampton

Good to see that in due course we shall see another extinct type reborn

One can only hope that it will be possible to freely view it when it is incarcerated in the G-W building or do we still have to time our visits?