April 14, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Visited the RAF Museum Reserve Collection today, and boy what a place! Wings from aircraft which now don’t exist in complete form, bombs, vehicles, stacks of WW1 aircraft propellers, crated complete aircraft, the Demoiselle flying replica from ‘Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines’, models of every single aircraft the RAF has ever flown, the lot. These photos show only a small part of what they have

This fantastic piece of nose art is from a Handley Page O/100 heavy bomber, nicknamed the ‘Bloody Paralyser’. This particular nose art is from serial number 1466, serving with 216 Squadron RAF

Morane Saulnier BB


These three photos show a large piece of a Handley Page O/400 upper wing



A dissasembled Curtiss JN4 ‘Jenny’, used by the RFC and RNAS as a trainer

Part of (tailplane I believe) a Handley Page V/1500, successor to the O/100 and O/400


Bessoneau wood and canvas hangar – a complete one is stored

Bench made out of DH4 propellers!

Sopwith Pup wheels

Zeppelin propeller

Model of a Blackburn Kangaroo bomber
Now onto the uniforms…. there is a huge room full of shelving and racks, on which hang white bags, in which are original uniforms…. thousands of them! There’s also hats, footwear, socks, helmets, puttees….

Women’s motorcycle rider hat

WAAC hat

WRAF maternity style jacket in khaki drill – this is blue, but identical ones were made in khaki before blue was introduced

Pith helmet with RFC insignia

Warren flying helmet, this one was used in May 1917 with 49 (Training) Squadron RFC at Spitalgate

1914 pattern RFC maternity jacket
By: Rlangham - 16th April 2009 at 00:17
The rest of it is elsewhere, probably in the many crates! It looked like the scene out of Indiana Jones, think it was the ‘ark of the lost covenant’ one.
Anyway, here’s a couple more photos

Handley Page Heyford cockpit interior

“Got Spitfire?”
By: RPSmith - 16th April 2009 at 00:09
OK Rob, thanks. Someone on AIX had a photo from further back and someone else came up with The Kestrel gliding Club site with AP.4488A on it.
I have to say it looks far from a “complete” Bessonneau at Stafford – unless there’s a lot of bits elsewhere.
Roger Smith.
By: Rlangham - 15th April 2009 at 20:43
I’m afraid that’s the only photograph of the Bessoneau framework I have – I could e-mail you the high resolution copy if that’s of use?
By: RPSmith - 15th April 2009 at 19:06
Rob,
Do you have any more pictures of the Bessoneau Hangar framework? – in particular the roof trusses.
Am trying to identify what is almost certainly a WW1 hangar in Coventry and the upright A-frames look identical
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=84728
Was there, perhaps, more than one design of Bessoneau?
Roger Smith.
By: VX927 - 14th April 2009 at 22:16
It’s fantastic to see these items safe and well. It’s a shame that they cant be stored at Cosford in a room similar to the storage room at the National Railway Museum. At the NRM the store is open the the public, but the items are effectively ‘in store’… Not in fancy displays, but you can wander around and see things like railway furniture… Things like that. The bench made from DH4 props is astonishing! It would be great to see!
By: Rlangham - 14th April 2009 at 21:57
Here’s my explanation for ‘maternity jacket’, copy and pasted from another forum
Apparently it looks like the sort of jacket pregnant women used to wear – i’ve never seen one before myself so wouldn’t know! They are very nice jackets though (the RFC ones that is), currently waiting to hear back about having one made for myself
To add to that, they did have an official name (can’t remember it now), maternity jacket was a nickname which stuck, like the ‘gor blimey’ cap worn by the rest of the Army, so nicknamed because apparently a Sergeant who saw it when they first arrived at the front/depot etc said ‘Gor’blimey!’
By: J Boyle - 14th April 2009 at 21:44
John.
That style of tunic was worn by men and was called the maternity style or pattern. Unless I’ve missed the joke?
Regards,
kev35
Freakin’ halarious. :D:D:D
Seriously..is that a well known term? I’ve never heard it.
I fear I maybe the victim of a language barrier.
By: Arabella-Cox - 14th April 2009 at 21:25
Simlpy the best post we have had on this forum in a long time! Do you have any more pics?
Martin
By: kev35 - 14th April 2009 at 20:40
John.
That style of tunic was worn by men and was called the maternity style or pattern. Unless I’ve missed the joke?
Regards,
kev35
By: Rlangham - 14th April 2009 at 19:53
Yep, this is Stafford Roger.
As for the RAF in WW1, I presume it was the same as the Women’s Auxiliary Army Corps, the RFC branch of which became the WRAF – married women were allowed, however only if their husband was on another front (so you would be alright if based in the UK and husband was in France, or in France if your husband was in Italy/Salonika etc)
I do have a few other photos, but I was mostly there for the WW1 stuff, will try and add more later.
Cheers, Rob
By: RPSmith - 14th April 2009 at 19:16
This is the Stafford store??
Great to see these – thanks.
Roger Smith.
By: J Boyle - 14th April 2009 at 19:15
RE; the maternity clothes…
I’m surprised they wuld have needed them.
I would have thoughtthat service was open to single women only…or if one (married or not) got pregnant, she would have been discharged.
Or was the RAF more modern then we’d assume for the period?
By: VX927 - 14th April 2009 at 18:58
Fantastic photos… It’s an amazing collection. Do you have any more photos you can share with us or other aircraft / parts in the collection?