WW2 Bunker With Three Disassembled Aircraft!

Consider it done.

Bernie, feel free to open a fresh thread if any credible evidence arrives.

Moggy
Moderator

Its obvious I’m getting noplace in here as far as info goes so if nobody wants to check or ask simple questions to varify whats been said then why do you bother?
Yes another long one eh kids, hooroo

Thanks Bernie,

Thanks for the eventual update on the Defence scans.

I actually did ring the Bunderburg Council last friday and asked some simple questions and got some very clear and open answers.

* The Council invited representatives of ABMM to tour the site in a minibus and identify all the areas to be scanned by Defence.
* Defence spent $50,000 on scans that identified absolutely nothing.
* The Council has invited ABMM to bring forward its eye witnesses to identify the bunker entrances
* The Council has offered to excavate any bunker entrance that ABMM can identify.
* ABMM are apparantly bringing in their own scanning experts at their cost.
* The Council and ABMM have agreed to a deadline of February 2009 for this investigation to be completed.
* The Council has airport employees who have worked at the airport since the early 1970’s and have no knowledge of the bunker, removed rail tracks or entrances that are claimed to have existed and been since removed or hidden.

In that enqury I didnt find any evidence of a conspiracy, in fact the person I spoke to was quite open to the possibility of a bunker and keen to resolve the risk of live munitions being onsite.

He was particularly keen to give those with evidence and claims of the bunker the opportunity to locate it and prove its existance.

Apparantly there is now claims of an area that was not scanned by defence, however it seems that site was not identified by ABMM as a target area during the minibus tour of the site that defined the Defence scan areas.

If such an “active” entrance exists, why doesnt ABMM simply enter it with Council permission and bring out photos or other evidence of the contents?

I would agree there is little point in continuing the banter, until real evidence is presented, there is little to support the claims the bunker exists, and the council offer to ABMM to bring forth such evidence seems very reasonable and to clearly put the ball in their court to prove its existance.

I am more sceptical than ever that such a bunker exists, let alone the wild claims of what is in it, I look forward to the results available by February to confirm that.

Moggy, as the orginator of this thread I am happy enough for this one to be locked, rather than deleted, as a reference for those who do search the net for evidence on the Bundaberg Bunker, (or lack of it), a new thread can always be created when the aircraft are being wheeled out of the excavated bunker between now and February.

regards

Mark Pilkington

Does anyone have any particular objection to this thread being locked?

It appears to be going nowhere.

Moggy
Moderator

Lock it? just delete the entire thing.

Does anyone have any particular objection to this thread being locked?

It appears to be going nowhere.

Moggy
Moderator

selected reading

Mark……please re read ALL of what I’ve said and not just bits to copy & paste as I’m tired of talking to walls.
THE MILITARY HAVE DONE THEIR RADAR AND JUST AS WE ALL (Bundaberg locals) THOUGHT, THEY FOUND NOTHING!!! THEY ALSO DIDN’T FIND IN THEIR RADAR TESTING, THE BUNKER THEY ENTERED ON THE FIRST DAY OF SCANNING. THE ACTIVE ENTRANCE TO THIS IS IN THE RIGHT HAND FRONT CORNER OF THE MAIN HANGER.
ITS JUST NOT THERE AS THERE SCANS DIDN’T SHOW IT!!! AND IF YOU WISH TO VIEW THE 6 year old SCANS, LOOK THEM UP ON THE WEB SITE THAT YOU MENTIONED BUT YOU MAY HAVE TO BEG FOR THE ENTIRE SCAN RESULTS.
to repeat myself yet again, I came here for more info THATS ALL. Thankfully I have many other far more helpfull sites I visit as this was no better than trying to talk to the local Mayor etc.
Bet you wont ask why the active entrance bunker did’nt show up on the Military’s scan eh Mark?
If the mob that gave me the info wants me to show it I will (they read this I know, Gday Dan)
But without permission, I’m happy to sit and laugh at all the sceptics who live on the other side of the planet that tell me whats in/not in MY back yard.
I’d also ask you Mark to challenge the Military as to why the active bunker didn’t show on their radar but that would be the 2nd simple tast I set for you that you would reject.
Its far more easy to call someone a liar than to check for the truth eh?
Its obvious I’m getting noplace in here as far as info goes so if nobody wants to check or ask simple questions to varify whats been said then why do you bother?
Yes another long one eh kids, hooroo

Radar = been done 6 years ago but nobody wants to see it.

Bernie, I want to see it, and have been asking you to show it from the outset?

Are you the person with that information?, or have seen it?, or have you just heard about it?

On another forum someone associated with the Australian Bunker Museum? posted these comments apparantly in relation to that same scan?

http://ww2chat.com/forums/news-articles/1678-underground-bunker-search-bundaberg-airport-queensland-3.html

Now as I have mentioned previously above, We DON’T KNOW if the site contains 500lb aerial bombs and aircraft or not. We really WON’T KNOW until we are allowed to excavate the site.

plant-pilot could well be right about the site being an air raid shelter. That was my initial conclusion as well after performing the geophysical survey over the site. At the very least we have a previously unknown large-scale underground air raid shelter which is historically significant in itself and which deserves to be heritage listed.

If anyone has any questions about the site or the Bundaberg Bunker stories, let me know.

Cheers.

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Is ABMM above referring to those same radar scans? and if so he seems to have conducted them, and throws doubts on what it is, and what is inside it?

If you do have radar scans that proove your claims, (and no one officially wants to see them, or take them seriously including the media), why dont you simply post them here to convince everyone publicly?

and my old chestnut “The Defence scanning is intended to prove or disprove the existance of the bunker, has that occured? or a date been set for it to occur?”

smiles

Mark Pilkington

Another day gone Bernie, let’s SEE what you’ve got?:)

I posted a reply but the moderator must be too chicken sh#$ to print it.

No, you didnt – I went back through all the old postings, and there has been no reply from you that has been moderated.

On this forum, we moderate reactively; there is no queue of items for moderation before posting.

So, please dont throw the over-moderation crap at us again…..

Bruce (Moderator)

We all want to see it. Post it please.

Yeah, if you’ve got some proper info for us too let’s see it then, look fwd to it:)

Radar = been done 6 years ago but nobody wants to see it.

We all want to see it. Post it please.

Bernie

Its quite simple, so far theres been no real evidence shown here to proove any of the claims made, so its hard to believe.

If and when that evidence is shown, or the new scans are done, or something is unearthed you are welcome to complain and crow we didnt believe.

So the question remains – has the new scanning proceeded? or do you know when it will?

regards

Mark Pilkington

answers already given

I posted a reply but the moderator must be too chicken sh#$ to print it.
Delete the BS thread as I only came here for info that some who read this would know but all I get is BS in return and a back yard laymans lawyer who disects what Ive said to suit his argument while ignoring the obvious.
Radar = been done 6 years ago but nobody wants to see it. NOT COUNCIL, MILITARY, GOVERNMENT OR THE LOCAL PAPER.
They, like some in here, just want it all to remain hidden.
Military radar = very predictable NOTHING THERE! not even the one with the active entry point in the main hanger!(right hand front corner) that the Military entered while doing the last ground radar test, go figure?
Good luck with any old plane rebuilds kids

Let’s wait and see if Bernie replies..

Why not just delete this BS thread?

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welcome back Bernie,

so whats the progress at Bundaberg, has the Defence scanning commenced, or have the previous scans and eye witness information been released to prove the sceptics wrong?

regards

Mark Pilkington

I take that as a No?

Regards

Mark Pilkington

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welcome back Bernie,

so whats the progress at Bundaberg, has the Defence scanning commenced, or have the previous scans and eye witness information been released to prove the sceptics wrong?

regards

Mark Pilkington

Bernie,

you have your opinion of whats there, based on what you have been told, or want to believe? You have claimed access to more evidence but advised its not yours to disclose.

Some of us are sceptical based on the lack of real evidence shown to us, and the “incredibility” of the written evidence and sketch that has been put out there by others.

Lets agree to dis-agree on that and focus on resolving who is right?

The Defence scanning is intended to prove or disprove the existance of the bunker, has that occured? or a date been set for it to occur?

regards

Mark Pilkington

Carm down dear, it’s just a comercial

full of experts

Gee I see you have an expert on aerial photography who has determined that (shock horror) nothing shows up on his PC that would indicate underground bunkers!!! and the government wouldn’t lie to us now would they?
So therefor there must be no bunkers at Bundaberg!?!?
I’ve also NEVER read ANYTHING on old WW2 Equipment being found!
The Military would NEVER just DUMP perfectly good Equipment after the war?
Nobody has ever found any old aircraft or parts in sheds or anyplace else cause the experts in here have told me so.
I must have just been lied to and should have just listened to the many who have never been to OZ let alone Bundaberg who are experts on what is here.
Thanks for clearing this up for Me and Bundy kids.
BIG smiles

Look more like Migs, to me…….:dev2:

Here is a screenshot of the above location: