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WW2 RAF tail fin fillet

Posting in case anyone could save me further hours of poring over aircraft..

I have just received a soft aluminium alloy fillet – painted in original temperate dark earth and dark green paint. It is about 1m long.

There is the remains of red, white and blue paint on the top edge – each at 8 inches long.

So once an RAF aircraft. There are traces of grey primers with silver and other paints on top and brown on top of the fin flash colours.

The part number I have found is 9F/892ND  A27 and the inspectors stamp is SSMCS over a 4 in a circle.

So made by a subcontractor in US, UK or Canada.

The inside is a light chromate green with handwritten A/C 38 STBD.

The fin flash dimensions and paint suggest a 39-42 medium aircraft.

The chromate green is possibly American/Canadian?

The raised RHS could be inverted to a concave.

The obvious answer is P-40 but I cant yet find this shape fillet on a P-40.

 

 

 

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By: FarlamAirframes - 10th October 2021 at 11:14

Thank you for the great idea not one I had checked

Unfortunately the Argus tail fillet is  not quite right – too broad at the front-end complex shape to the rear – but low level of attaching points as requested…

Thanks

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By: Arabella-Cox - 9th October 2021 at 18:47

Fairchild Argus?

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By: FarlamAirframes - 9th October 2021 at 18:22

Thank you – my plan is rumbled and I may have to ask politely instead…

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By: Mothminor - 9th October 2021 at 16:46

Radararchive of this forum is a curator at East Fortune 🙂

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By: FarlamAirframes - 9th October 2021 at 13:17

Thank you! I did get a genuine P-40 tail from Russia to prove to myself that it was not a match…..

I am looking for volunteers to distract the curators at East Fortune whilst I approach the Spartan with some wire wool looking for inspectors stamps …

Still looking for other ideas..

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By: Stirling - 8th October 2021 at 20:09

I did wander round Duxford last month looking at every tailplane fillet with this item in mind and there was nothing that matches.

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By: FarlamAirframes - 9th September 2021 at 11:39

I have passed several hours looking for this part.

The datapoints are:

1. That this fairing is held in place by only four fixings. Which must mean a low speed aircraft.

2. Inspectors stamp is SSMCS – this has resulted in searching for all aircraft manufacturers and suppliers beginning with S.

3. The part numbers includes A27

4. The paint scheme suggesting military use in the period 39 – 42.

I checked SLINGSBY Sailplanes – but their inspectors stamp is SSK.

I checked The SARO A27 London but there is no forward bulge.

I have spent some time looking through Simmonds Spartan Aircraft. The only one that comes close is the Spartan cruiser MkIII which evolved from the SARO mailplane A24. All others had unfaired fins.  But there are no good images of the tail and only three were made – two crashing at Largs and Blackpool and a third impressed into RAF service in Feb 1940. G-ADEL which became X9432 and was joined by two Cruisers IIs in RAF service

X9431 Spartan Cruiser II

X9432 Spartan Cruiser III

X9433 Spartan Cruiser II

Mentioned as being used by AACU’s at Ringway and SOC July 1940.

Anyone with Spartan knowledge know their part numbers or inspectors stamp ?

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By: FarlamAirframes - 1st September 2021 at 14:51

Given that the find flash section was overpainted in brown – If this was an ex RAF P-40 it would be a Tomahawk 11 or P4-0B.

Looking at the stbd fin fillet of P40 B and C – and adjusting the shape it doe now look similar – except for the additional welded pusher cover at the rear.

https://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/p-40/pages/fhc_p-40c_21.shtml

https://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/p-40/pages/dsj_p-40b_09.shtml

 

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