WWII aircraft

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The photo was taken during the 1991 airshow at Geneseo in Ny state. Every year they gathered as much 2- and 4 engined WW2 bombers as possible. Only negative part was (always) that the persons behind the microphones couldn’t keep their mouths shut during the flypasts, so all video recording was (always) spoiled by their (usual stupid and (not funny at all)) ‘jokes’. Apart from that, the show was one of the best ones to make photographs, nothing further away than 200 mm, clean background and a “dirt” runway. Tmeless photography!. Unfortunatly, the show isn’t there any more.

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Its a yc-122 Avitruc… it was built as an assault transport derived from the G-18 assault glider. It was built by Chase in ’48 of which 11 were produced. Power was 2 PW R-2000-101 twin wasps for the first 3, then PW R-1820s for the next 6. The last 2 show as having PW R-2800-83’s… though I have no data on performance.

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Whats that thing?

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Sorry Steve, that picture was sent to me in an e-mail a few weeks back and I do not know where it was taken. Any guess would be pure speculation on my part.
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WHAT A PICTURE!!!

Cool Hand, where was that taken (the heavies, that is)?

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 10-01-02 AT 07:46 PM (GMT)]For anyone that would like it, I have a Whirlwind that works on Microsoft Flight Simulator 2. It looks great visually and you can even load up a torpedo if you are so inclined. I’ll zip it up tonight and will forward it on to anyone whom would like it, just let me know…

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Just to add to the listing:
Il2 Sturmovik-A number of these survive as wrecks in various places.Atleast 2 are currently in the UK,with one said to be under restoration.Others are on display in the former Soviet Union,and there is said to be a cache of these machines lying at the bottom of a Hungarian lake.
MiG-3:There are currently no MiG-3’s as far as I’m aware.
P38J “DroopSnoot”:There are or atleast have been one or two droopsnoot and pathfinder-nosed P38’s around in recent years,but I don’t know the exact details of them,or whether they are still airworthy.It should be remembered that the droopsnoot was a conversion of a standard P38J or L,so it’s possible that other droopsnoots might be created from existing regular P38’s.
Fokker D.XXI-These were ‘extinct’ until a few years ago when one or two wrecks were recovered from the old USSR,having formerly served with the Finnish AF.Last I heard there was a plan to rebuild one complete static example from these parts.
Hs.129-So far as I know,only an armour plated nose/cockpit section survives in Germany,having been recovered from former USSR.
Kawasaki Ki-61 Hien-There is one example currently on display in Japan,and there are other substantial parts that might one day create another complete aircraft.
Mitsubishi A5M ‘Claude’-so far as I can remember there is one on display in Japan,although this may only be a substantial wreck.
Mitsubishi J2M Raiden ‘Jack’-There is one example with Planes of Fame at Chino in California,and I think there may also be another in US,and possibly yet another in Japan.
Petlyakov Pe2-There was a wreck recovered from Russia a few years back,which was muted to be potentially airworthy and I think it went to the states,but i’ve not heard anything since.There may also be others as wrecks or on display in Russia and China.
Il-4/SB2-There are one or two wrecks and other bits and pieces,but I don’t know of any complete examples.
Tu-2:There are a number of Tu-2’s in existence in a number of places worldwide,with a number in China,aswell as one or two in USSR and another fairly rotten looking example in Bulgaria.There is another potentially airworthy example in the US,and the project is currently up for sale.
To add to the Hampden listing,we mustn’t forget the example coming together slowly but surely at Elvington in Yorkshire.
With regard to the Whirlwind,it is true to say that it’s engines let it down etc,but it should also be remembered that it was quite a hotrod,with a high landing speed which meant that it needed a very long runway.Even though it would have been effective as a fighter-bomber,it’s hard to see how it could have operated from forward airfields in places like Normandy.All in all,I think we should be glad that the Typhoon was around to fill the gap.

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Nah, that’s not potent… it only had four 20mm cannon.

The Beaufighter, on the other hand, had 6 .303’s in the wings, 4 20mm’s in the nose, bombs, rockets, torpedo… Now THAT’s potent. 🙂

(But then I’m biased)

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Theres also a Defiant long term project with the Bolton Paul association, and a Maruder in France.

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Every time I go to an airshow and the Grumman Tigercat is displayed it disappoints me that the Whirlwind was never properly developed (Fitted with decent engines) and more importantly that nobody at Westland thought to preserve the last survivor which, I believe, served as a company hack well into the fifties.

Shame.

Could make a nice subject for an 80% flying replica if the homebuild types ever fancy a move into twins.

Moggy C

Who once knew a Whirlwind pilot. He preferred the Spitfire.

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Hi all,

Only picky if a Whirlwind I could find on th eweb is at:

http://www.mkiii-design.co.uk/whirlwind.html

And thats a 3-d graphic…. Pity cos it looks a potent little jobby… its nose bristling with guns…

Cheers,

Paul.

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oh yeh herd of that

rabie :9

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I think he meant the first Westland Whirlwind; twin engined single seat fighter bomber, served with a couple of RAF Squadrons (including 263…?) during 1941/42. None survived unfortunately.

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 10-01-02 AT 01:13 PM (GMT)]”Westland Whirlwind – none“
thats the chopper right – i have one in my local dockyard next to a gannet. my uncle’s scout gfroup is repainting it soon.

rabie :9

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Here’s what I know:

Blackburn Skua – remains of the sole survivor at FAA Museum Yeovilton
Blackburn Roc – none
Boulton Paul Defiant – sole survivior at RAF Museum Hendon
Fairey Barracuda – sole survivior under long-term rebuild at Yeovilton
Westland Whirlwind – none
Bell P-59 – one under rebuild to fly with Planes of Fame at Chino, one in the USAF Museum, one in the collection at another base in California whose name escapes me (and I’ve been there!); there may be others
Northrop P-61 – one in the USAF Museum, one in a museum in China and one under rebuild to fly in the US
Dornier Do.335 – sole survivor in the Smithsonian collection
Bristol Beaufort – various examples, including one in at Hendon, a couple at Chino, and several in Australia, one of which is under rebuild to fly
Handley Page Hampden – one under rebuld for Hendon (currently at SkySport), one virtually complete in a museum near Vancouver
Martin B-26 – one flyable with Kermit Weeks at Polk City, one in the USAF Museum, two or three others, mainly in the US
Vickers Wellesley – none