May 26, 2004 at 8:06 am
deary me, this guy has got to be near max cross wind for the ERJ!
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/342059/L/
WD, care to comment?
By: Airline owner - 29th May 2004 at 09:00
whoa!! looks kind of exciting.
By: Tim Green - 29th May 2004 at 07:35
Damn! I’ll bet the pax seated in the right-side window seats were holding their breath!
By: RIPConcorde - 28th May 2004 at 12:21
The ‘ski jump’ LOL!! 😀
By: lba - 28th May 2004 at 11:37
Finningley (Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield etc!) airport is virtually flat, you can see down the full length and there are few undulations. Increase in height between one end and the other is just 9 feet over nearly 2 miles..
By: skypilot62 - 28th May 2004 at 08:21
I’ve had more great landing ruined by the runway than I can count. :D[/QUOTE]
Know what you mean WD! The mighty ERJ may have a firm u/c but I always found it landed heavier from the R/H seat 😉
Bmused 55 – my comment about a normal approach wasn’t meant to sound critical. Surprisingly, the ERJ has the same x-wind limits as most major “big boys” – 35 kts. I guess it looks a bit more pronounced low down in a smaller jet. There is of course the possibility that the photo shows a couple of my colleagues over correcting for wind but I doubt that is very likely 😀
Just as an aside, it’s quite exciting to pop out of cloud at 500 ft on the ILS expecting to see the runway ahead and find it’s only visible out of the side DV window!
By: Bmused55 - 28th May 2004 at 07:10
Perfectly acceptable approach wouldn’t you agree WD?
The downside of the ERJ’s swept wing means you can only kick straight immediately prior to touchdown as opposed to the more traditional turbo-prop/piston cross control wing-down technique. It takes a while to make the transition but is perfectly okay once you get the hang of it.
The “unlevelled” runway is also normal. I can’t think of a perfectly flat runway that I’ve ever operated from. Some are worse than others. At MAN for example, at the end of 24R you can’t see over the hump to the end of the runway!
Never said it wasn’t an acceptable approach, merely suggested that it was probably close to safe max Cross wind for an ERJ.
Thanks for the input all the same 🙂 and Thanks to WD too
By: Whiskey Delta - 28th May 2004 at 02:29
Perfectly acceptable approach wouldn’t you agree WD?
As you said, due to the swept wings that is the proper approach method. Straight wing turboprops have quite an advantage in strong crosswinds since you can establish your crosswind correction earlier where you left to a last second transition in swept wing aircraft.
The “unlevelled” runway is also normal. I can’t think of a perfectly flat runway that I’ve ever operated from. Some are worse than others. At MAN for example, at the end of 24R you can’t see over the hump to the end of the runway!
I’ve had more great landing ruined by the runway than I can count. 😀
By: skypilot62 - 28th May 2004 at 01:51
Perfectly acceptable approach wouldn’t you agree WD?
The downside of the ERJ’s swept wing means you can only kick straight immediately prior to touchdown as opposed to the more traditional turbo-prop/piston cross control wing-down technique. It takes a while to make the transition but is perfectly okay once you get the hang of it.
The “unlevelled” runway is also normal. I can’t think of a perfectly flat runway that I’ve ever operated from. Some are worse than others. At MAN for example, at the end of 24R you can’t see over the hump to the end of the runway!
By: Whiskey Delta - 27th May 2004 at 03:36
That sure is quite a crosswind there. 🙂
Perfectly safe wee contraption is the ERJ. If your flying CO, maybe you’ll get WD :DD
It won’t be me as I’m on VACATION!!!!! 😀
By: LBARULES - 26th May 2004 at 18:03
I know it’s just probably an effect of the image but is the runway supposed to be so ‘unlevelled’?
I think it is, people often call the runway a ‘rollercoaster’
Thats a great picture, Derek Pedley is one of the best photgraphers around in my book.
By: pierrepjc - 26th May 2004 at 17:37
Whats the fuss ?? Seems ok to me.
Paul
By: greekdude1 - 26th May 2004 at 17:27
He might as well be coming in perpendicular to the runway.
By: Bmused55 - 26th May 2004 at 13:37
You’ve got me praying for good weather next Monday when I fly Newark to Pittsburgh
on one of those
Perfectly safe wee contraption is the ERJ. If your flying CO, maybe you’ll get WD :DD
By: The Old Man - 26th May 2004 at 12:45
You’ve got me praying for good weather next Monday when I fly Newark to Pittsburgh
on one of those
By: 4 engines good - 26th May 2004 at 12:42
I know it’s just probably an effect of the image but is the runway supposed to be so ‘unlevelled’?