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Yak – a close one.

Take a look at this Yak. It doesn’t get much closer than this. 🙁

http://www.stevesairshow.com/videos/jsoh04/jsoh04-yak-close.rm

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By: macky42 - 17th May 2004 at 18:22

The bottom of that loop almost looks like it bounced! I’m surprised he didn’t pull the wings off. Must be built like a T-34 🙂

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By: Flood - 17th May 2004 at 18:19

Not sure if it’s me, or the video, or not, but it appears the prop slows down after the near-miss.

Would this be something to do with throttle, or an optical illusion? Or do you think he actually did touch the deck? (I imagine the Yak has a metal prop, which accounts for why it is still going?)

It could be to do with the shutter on the video camera – lots of light sky, then darker ground, then back to the lighter sky again could mean that the prop looks like it has slowed as the cameras auto exposure tries to compensate.
Still, as all thrill-seekers know, adrenalin is brown and runny…;)

Do we know the ‘plane, date, location, pilot? My copy has 2004 Joint Services Open House as its identifier.

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By: Bradburger - 17th May 2004 at 18:13

Not ‘mush’ room there.

Saved by the ‘ground effect’.

Mark

Yes Mark, it does indeed look like that saved him!

I don’t think it is fair to call the pilot an idiot or fool as it doesn’t look like he planned to do that to me!

A classic error of judgement is more likey the cause.

Watching the footage again, it looks like he was attempting a wingover but got too slow over the top whilst at the same time rolling to much (almost inverted) to the right. I think this is the classic example of where you ‘Roll Out’ instead of “Pulling Through” when things go pear shaped.

Oh, and for those wondering exactly what a ‘Derry Turn is, ‘ (the press seemed to have invented the term ‘Derry Roll’) that’s the manovuer he flew after the near miss.

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By: Jimmy Page - 17th May 2004 at 16:56

Funny how some say he’s a idiot.. What if he hadnt been so lucky…. would he still be a idiot. The incident is alomost identical to the Firefly.. The men in the Firefly were rightly so never called idiots.

Mr Hanna is never reffered to as a idiot.. Yes he’s a good and vast experienced pilot but sometimes a bit over top as like the yak pilot.. Yet Hanna is awlays praised for that style of flying..

Mabey lessons will be learnt by this clip.. I hope so..

Ps No offence to any of the named

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By: ozplane - 17th May 2004 at 16:55

Kodak, you answered my comment yourself. Both this and the Firefly incident had poor energy management.

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By: Mark12 - 17th May 2004 at 16:18

Not ‘mush’ room there.

Saved by the ‘ground effect’.

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By: trumper - 17th May 2004 at 16:08

Yes warbirds should be aerobatted but certainly in a much more responsible way than that.Theres no need for a conflict of ground and plane,no excuse,the manouvre should be completed well before hieght becomes an issue.

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By: Moggy C - 17th May 2004 at 16:00

Whats the point of aerobatting warbirds!???

This has been discussed here many times.

There are a couple of divergent views which show no sign of ever being resolved.

I, for one, am firmly on the side of “That’s what they are for”

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But not if they let the guy in the film do it 😡

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By: kodak - 17th May 2004 at 15:52

Kodak, the similarity with the Firefly accident is that he nearly hit the ground while at a level attitude. The Firefly was pretty much at a level attitude when they hit the ground (too much sink). If the Yak was in a stalled condition at the top of the manoeuvre then he probably would not have made it. Quite difficult to watch even so.

OK but the Firefly was desperately trying to pull out of an unintentional manouvere – i.e. a derry roll or similar that was lost when the a/c hit inverted. This fool was intentionally entering a pretty hazardous manouvere with minimum height available.

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By: duxfordhawk - 17th May 2004 at 15:10

Just seen the moving images now – he really is one lucky man. From the commentary it sounds like the aircraft is an original restoration, not one of the new-build Yaks.

Bloody fool.

Thats is truelly stupid flying the fact he got away with it is amazing but we don’t need pilots like that,Its worse he carried on afterwards but at least he had that chance many pilots don’t.

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By: DazDaMan - 17th May 2004 at 15:03

Not sure if it’s me, or the video, or not, but it appears the prop slows down after the near-miss.

Would this be something to do with throttle, or an optical illusion? Or do you think he actually did touch the deck? (I imagine the Yak has a metal prop, which accounts for why it is still going?)

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By: Paul Rix - 17th May 2004 at 14:10

Kodak, the similarity with the Firefly accident is that he nearly hit the ground while at a level attitude. The Firefly was pretty much at a level attitude when they hit the ground (too much sink). If the Yak was in a stalled condition at the top of the manoeuvre then he probably would not have made it. Quite difficult to watch even so.

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By: danohagan - 17th May 2004 at 13:49

Just seen the moving images now – he really is one lucky man. From the commentary it sounds like the aircraft is an original restoration, not one of the new-build Yaks.

Bloody fool.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 17th May 2004 at 13:43

I can’t get either of the links to work (system limitations here at work), but that sequence of stills is just terrifying.

Who, where, when? And have the relevant Authority withdrawn his DA yet? If only to ensure his continued survival!

That pilot is the luckiest man alive today. I hope he realises that.

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By: kodak - 17th May 2004 at 13:35

A very lucky pilot. With respect to all there are similarities to the Firefly incident last year. It looks like some indecision in a high “g” manouvre. I’d like to see the “witness” marks on some of the rivets after that one.

Exactly what similarity is there with the Firefly incident!?!?

Seen this so many times in North America – usually however in a higher performance aerobatic machine than a warbird. Too low and slow to enter the split s by the look of it. Idiot. Whats the point of aerobatting warbirds!???

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By: Archer - 17th May 2004 at 13:29

Or try this version converted to windows media format.
http://www.users.on.net/apowell/jsoh04-yak-close.wmv

Allan

Thanks for that! The timing of the audio does seem to be a bit off though. The pause in the commentary should be around the time the Yak nears the ground.

It is clear from the clip that he was pulling some G’s at the bottom. You can see on the stills that at the lowest point his AOA is quite a few degrees more than on climbout, which indicates that he only spotted his error quite late. The AOA probably saved his prop too! In my view this guy needs a reality check. Basically after such a stunt you’re living on time you shouldn’t have had! 😎

Edit, for those who cannot watch the original: you might need to download Realplayer

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By: DazDaMan - 17th May 2004 at 13:15

Thanks for that, Allan. That’s even scarier to watch than the famous Hanna/DeCadenait video.

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By: danohagan - 17th May 2004 at 13:03

That’s low! Literally millimetres to spare by the looks of it. What type of Yak is that – is it a “new build” Yak 3?

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By: DazDaMan - 17th May 2004 at 12:50

Bloody hell! Those stills Archer posted make it look even worse!!

Should imagine his prop was just inches from Mother Earth! 😮

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By: ozplane - 17th May 2004 at 12:35

A very lucky pilot. With respect to all there are similarities to the Firefly incident last year. It looks like some indecision in a high “g” manouvre. I’d like to see the “witness” marks on some of the rivets after that one.

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