Yemenia aircraft crashes in the Indian Ocean

http://www.theage.com.au/world/yemenia-plane-crash-survivor-leaves-hospital-father-20090724-dvag.html

Perhaps it’s because we expect to hear of the odd incident involving airliners working from territories with apparently less than scrupulous maintenance schedules, and we are surprised to hear of similar incidents involving airlines with ‘allegedly’ superior operating standards… I could be wrong, but if I am then please explain your curiosity further.

10 out of 10 young man!!!

Many of you Kev35, lucas, Ren Frew and others are echoing similar thoughts I reflected in my post of 30th June 2009, 23:47
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1431464&posted=1#post1431464

It is a ‘stringbag’ operation with money making sharks behind it. They don’t care about the passengers, their comfort or their deaths or grieving relatives and will only be interested in recovering their insurance claim on the aircraft and writing it off their financial books at a low residual value (which was in fact reality as it was probably a flying death trap)

There is nothing the Western/Developed world can do but to ban these ‘dodgy’ operations from it’s airspaces and avoid knowingly flying on them.

Complaining to ‘sharks’ is a waste of breath as lives to them are expendable, just simply avoid using them.

It wasn’t in EU airspace. One plane flew from Paris to Sana. Passengers from that flight transferred to another plane at Sana for the flight to the Comores.

I stand corrected – thanks

Most likely because if we do talk about it, someome will inevitable come on and whinge about us doing so, stating how it’s disrespectful to the dead and their families.

Or is the unpalatable truth that we value West European & North American lives more highly than others? :confused:

Simple, any of us could have been on an Air France plane, the odds are much higher of us being on a Yemeni plane. (except maybe Wannabe pilot :D)

I’m curious. 21 hours roughly since the crash and just 18 posts to this thread. When AF447 went down there were 112 posts in the first 21 hours after the crash. I wonder why the discrepancy in interest?

Regards,

kev35

Possibly more to do with the AF crash being a mystery from the start and remaining so – plenty of speculation on that thread… whereas, rightly or wrongly, this incident is already more or less being attributed to a dodgy airline/weather – no-one seems very surprised by this crash and the mystery is ‘solved’.

Agreed, If it had been a top 10 airline and not so far away I suspect that the news media would have been a lot more interested.:(

I’m curious. 21 hours roughly since the crash and just 18 posts to this thread. When AF447 went down there were 112 posts in the first 21 hours after the crash. I wonder why the discrepancy in interest?

Regards,

kev35

Perhaps it’s because we expect to hear of the odd incident involving airliners working from territories with apparently less than scrupulous maintenance schedules, and we are surprised to hear of similar incidents involving airlines with ‘allegedly’ superior operating standards… I could be wrong, but if I am then please explain your curiosity further.

I’m curious. 21 hours roughly since the crash and just 18 posts to this thread. When AF447 went down there were 112 posts in the first 21 hours after the crash. I wonder why the discrepancy in interest?

Regards,

kev35

I thought the same, its strange how a similar sort of accident brought such differant reactions.
I feel that this is because, with regards to Air France 447, this was a well known European airline that was regarded as a safe, reliable airline. Passengers might not think twice when flying Air France as they would feel secure in their safety however perhaps with Yemenia, a rather run-down airline with a poor reputation, an accident wouldn’t come as such a shock as AF447 did.

Either way it was a tragedy what happened today in the Indian Ocean and thoughts go out to the families and friends of the passengers on the Yemenia flight.

I’m curious. 21 hours roughly since the crash and just 18 posts to this thread. When AF447 went down there were 112 posts in the first 21 hours after the crash. I wonder why the discrepancy in interest?

Regards,

kev35

…What isn’t clear is if the aircraft was unsafe in 2007 what was it doing in EU airspace and had all the issues been corrected ?….

It wasn’t in EU airspace. One plane flew from Paris to Sana. Passengers from that flight transferred to another plane at Sana for the flight to the Comores.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/comorosandmayotte/5700026/Air-crash-14-year-old-girl-plucked-from-Indian-Ocean.html

Quoting the report above “However, French and EU authorities confirmed that the plane, which had been flying since 1990, had been banned from European airspace because of a series of faults found in 2007”.

A tragedy that could have been avoided but cost cutting/extreme profiteering makes this stink, that some peoples lives are considered expendable.

What isn’t clear is if the aircraft was unsafe in 2007 what was it doing in EU airspace and had all the issues been corrected ?

From other aspects in the above news report it doesn’t appear to have been safe and if so was it cleared as safe to be in EU airspace while still being in reality in a bad state of maintenance?

This tragedy cannot be blamed on Airbus but solely on the operator and hopefully this tragedy should ensure they are banned from EU and American airspace until they clean up their operation.

The recession will sadly see a lot more of these cost cutting exercises resulting in near misses and tragedies.

The main manufacturers Boeing and Airbus cannot carry the ‘can’ for operator cost cutting.

AP report:

A 14-year-old girl survived the crash. And Yemen’s embassy in Washington issued a statement saying a young girl survived and was taken to a hospital. It also said five bodies were recovered.

There were earlier reports that a 5-year-old boy survived. El-Kaei said that was not known and the airline had lost contact with its office in Comoros because of bad weather.

Yemeni civil aviation deputy chief Mohammed Abdul Qader said the flight data recorder had not been found and it was too early to speculate on the cause of the crash. But he said the wind was 40 miles per hour (61 kph) as the plane was landing in the middle of the night.

“The weather was very bad,” he said, adding the windy conditions hampered rescue efforts.

Gen. Bruno de Bourdoncle de Saint-Salvy, the senior commander for French forces in the southern Indian Ocean, said the Airbus 310 crashed in deep waters about 9 miles (14.5 kilometers) north of the Comoran coast and 21 miles (34 kilometers) from the Moroni airport.

An Airbus statement said the plane that crashed went into service 19 years ago, in 1990, and had accumulated 51,900 flight hours. It has been operated by Yemenia since 1999. Airbus said it was sending a team of specialists to the Comoros.

The A310-300 is a twin-engine widebody jet that can seat up to 220 passengers. There are 214 A310s in service worldwide with 41 operators.

A crisis center was set up at Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris. Many passengers were from the French city of Marseille, home to around 80,000 immigrant Comorans, more even than Comoros’ capital of Moroni.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_yemen_plane_crash;_ylt=AoDujvX7b9Gp6ZFmOt.q7LCaK8MA

A Yemenia airlines Airbus 310-300 registered under the number 70-ADJ taxis on the tarmac of Charles De Gaulle International Airport in Paris in this July 27,

According to PlaneCrashInfo:

Airbus A310-324 Reg: 7O-ADJ

No they said this morning that the captain had survived and yemeni officials were amazed how he survived the crash..

Almasmari also reported that a young child and the pilot were among the survivors.

CTV news reporting a 5 yr old girl survived and so has the Captain, both being rescued and taken to hospital!

Would be surprising if the Captain had survived. CTV are not reporting his survival, only that of a five year old boy.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090630/Comoros_crash_090630/20090630?hub=TopStories

CTV news reporting a 5 yr old girl survived and so has the Captain, both being rescued and taken to hospital!

Here is the story from Reuters:

http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-40697720090630