Enclosed are pictures of a newly acquired yoke. The only information that came with the wheel was that it was Soviet WWII. I came across the attached black and white picture on the internet allegedly a Ilyushin 4 bomber cockpit the mainstay bomber of the Soviets. You can see the similarities between both wheels but there are also some subtle differences. Can any identify this wheel for sure? Or does anyone have any further pictures of an Ilyushin 4 or DB3 (torpedo version) cockpit? Thanks in advance for any help.
By: mike currill - 5th July 2014 at 04:01
Oops clanger dropped again. Mind you considering how solidly everything in the An2 is built those old yokes would not look out of place.
By: l.garey - 4th July 2014 at 06:35
Mike: did the An-2 have different yokes, then? I took this photo in SP-ASR recently.
By: mike currill - 4th July 2014 at 00:34
It has to be said that even the An-2 has a yoke barely any more sophisticated.
By: FLY.BUY - 3rd July 2014 at 21:14
Thanks Ken, the Il-14 and Il-18 yokes are of similar shape hence why I think its an Ilyushin design but the yoke I have is a little more primitive before it evolved into these transport aircraft hence why I think its from a much earlier aircraft.
By: Flanker_man - 3rd July 2014 at 20:57
Are you sure its WWII (GPW) ???
Do a Google search on Il-14 or Il-18 cockpit – they seem to have similar yokes.
Ken
By: FLY.BUY - 3rd July 2014 at 20:03
Thanks for your reply NII_VVS, your picture adds a bit more clarity. I haven’t seen much information on Russian WWII yokes and wonder if certain multi engined yokes were a generic design or similar to the west whereby each aircraft manufacturer have their own unique design with the pattern would continuing through the generations of different aircraft similar to what can be seen on the Avro, Vickers designs etc. If the latter is true the maybe I could narrow the search down to an ilyushin design of the same period, I believe there was a later Ilyushin 6 which was based on the Il-4 but unable to acquire a cockpit shot of this aircraft.
Anyone who wishes to discuss wartime or pre war Russian yokes on this thread please feel free to do so, any shared knowledge is appreciated amongst collectors.
By: Bruce - 3rd July 2014 at 08:21
Off topic slightly, but I admire the rugged simplicity of the part. We had an industry turning out what were works of art in comparison; carefully cast, covered with a formed gripping surface, adorned with carefully positioned buttons and triggers. The Russians bent a piece of aluminium around a former, and attached it to a welded centre, then bound it in tape. Now, that’s mass production!
By: Arabella-Cox - 3rd July 2014 at 08:16
I’ll grant that your unit does bear a resemblance, but I think it is likely not the same control yoke.
But first, some nomenclature correction. The DB-3 is not the torpedo version of the Il-4. Instead, the entire family started life as the BD-3.
During 1941 the Government decided to replace aircraft designations based upon function (e.g. DB = Long-Range Bomber) with one based upon the designer’s initials (IL = Ilyushin). Ergo, the DB-3 eventually became the Il-4 (so that a late manufacture ‘DB-3F’ IS an early manufacture ‘Il-4’; identical, only the name changed).
Now, for the yoke the main difference is that your item’s supporting ‘spokes’ push the wheel away from the hub, whereas the DB-3/Il-4’s do not. These are ‘flat’, so that the wheel is flush with them. The face of the hub is slightly different as well.
Any road, have a look at this better photo and see what you reckon.
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