You are " THE MAN " NEIL ARMSTRONG,

I think you’ll find that was “less power than a ZX80“.

Granted,…but I just wanted to put it into perspective for some of our younger members….(I remember the old Sinclairs well) 🙂

TNZ

Someone once said “You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time” – seems accurate to me. They went.

…and all this done with computers that had less computing power than a Playstation…….

I think you’ll find that was “less power than a ZX80“.

Well, I got to shake Buzz Aldrin’s hand at Warbirds Over Wanaka…..well everyone did, but what a guy !!!
Very friendly and “down to earth” (sorry couldn’t resist that one !! ;))

TNZ

I recently found a link to GOOGLE – EARTH on this website and spent hours touring the globe as a virtual tourist.

I understand that there is also a GOOGLE – MOON and I intend to download and play with that one tonight., and see what I can see in the Sea of Tranquility.

As to the “hollywood” creation of the moon landings, yes I have no doubt if the US Government had wanted to fake it that they could have done a credible job at it with 1960’s technology and it would take a few years for it to leak out, but its an entertaining theory but not really likely.

Surely one day this will be all proven conclusively to be real by the future trips to the moon, by historians, or “general public” paying tourists (from the higher income brackets certainly) which will no doubt visit the “one small step site” and take plaster casts of the shoe prints, tourist pics next to the “flag” and climb all over the four legged base of the “lander” and see what still turns on? and what souvenir’s they can unscrew and pocket without anyone seeing them being taken.

(I wonder if you can declare a “World Heritage Listing” to a patch of dirt and footprints on another “world” to protect it from tourists and souvenir hunters for future generations? 😀 )

There is much more “evidence” of the landings on the moon, than the reflectors, maybe Google -Moon will one day have the resolution to see the show size of Neil Armstrong.

I and my generation have seen an historic moment on TV and will take it to our graves, and my children take all this technology as a given and simply expect more of the same.

But my grandfather was born in 1900 and died 1993, he and his generation lived through the most unbelievable leaps foward in technology our civilisation – Air Travel, Space Travel, moving pictures, talking pictures TV in the home, Telephone – Communication, CARs, Computers, Microwaves, heart transplants, cloning, the internet, rock and roll and of course “wrap music”, — his eyes must have been constantly overwhelmed by what happened around him, and his ears deafened by the roar of technological progress (and the load music he couldnt stand us listening to, its something I now share in common with him 😉 ).

Again – 36 years since Neil took that step for us all!, and only 66 years after Orville and Wilbur launched us all into the air! – WOW!!!!

regards

Mark Pilkington

I distinctly remember being on holiday in Cornwall as a much younger Roobarb than I am today (maybe a young pup!) and we were staying at a farm when this happened. We all crowded round the small b+w TV with the farmer and his family and watched a really poor quality set of live pictures coming through and my old Dad telling me that this was “history in the making” and how right he was. For me as a kid growing up during the Space Race there was nothing more gripping than rushing home from school to watch James Buerk live from mission control in Houston giving you an update on the days events. What a bunch of Heroes those Astronauts were to us young lads. For those of us that saw it live it was the “Where were you when Kennedy was shot” moment of our generation. 🙂

I’ve met 3 of the guys who went up there, I believe em.
The funniest was Gordo Cooper. I was on a stepladder at Santa Monica Airport working on CottonMouth when a short, somewhat roundish *geezer* wanders over & asks if he can take it for a spin.

I look down at him & ask what his qualifications are…. :confused:

He points at the Apollo patch on his flight jacket & says “Is this good enough?”… 😮 (yeah, I know he flew Mercury & Gemini)

I say “Help yerself Sir, the keys are in it” 😀 😉

I also have a copy of the video where some jackass reporter walks up to Buzz Aldrin & says “You are a coward, a liar & a th…” just as Aldrins fist connects with his jaw LMFAO!

Stayed up all night with my Dad to watch the ‘small step’ – I remember him taking photos of the TV screen as the first fuzzy images became clear.

The ‘conspiracy theories’ were tested recently as part of a TV programme. They recreated the various criteria which have been pointed out as proving the landings were faked.
They shot pictures on identical Hasselblad cameras, clamped to a replica moonsuit, using a very bright single light source to simulate the sun (this was all down at night).
The result was that all the claims of fake images could be explained quite easily as being caused by the environment they were shot in.

The folk who claim it never happened are just attention seekers.

Anyone interested who hasn’t simply must read ‘Man On The Moon’ by Andrew Chaikin, it’s superb.

Moon Dust

The author of a new book called ‘Moon Dust’ (or Moondust’) was on Radio 5 live recently. He talked about his interviews with many of the surviving Apollo astronauts, on which the content of the book is based.

It sounds like a very interesting read.

http://pirlwww.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/NOT_faked/ – I found this rebuttal pretty convincing….

Given the political climate of the time, (snip)
Unless you were aboard the Apollo craft heading for the moon, we’ll never truly know if it really happened or not! 😉

Here we go again….. 😡

:confused: Given the political climate of the time, why did the Russians congratulate the Americans on their achievement instead of loudly proclaiming it a fake because their tracking stations couldnt get a signal ?

:confused: It takes more than a few astronauts to pull off a fake of this magnitude, and after 36 years dont you think someone would have broken ranks by now ?

:confused: What about the laser reflectors left on the moon, which can still be ‘activated’ by shining a laser at them ?

:confused: Why repeat the same fake over and over again ? Once would have been enough

:confused: Where did the Apollo 11 go once it took off (you cant seriously believe the lift-offs didnt happen, can you ?). If it stayed in earth orbit until splashdown it wouldnt have been hard to spot – tiny satellites can easily be seen on most nights and the shuttle is a big bright dot , so something the size of an Apollo command module should easily be seen. And the telemetry would have been traceable to earth orbit.

Frankly, all this talk of fakes is a gross insult to the astronauts in question, all of whom risked their lives, some of them nearly lost them (Apollo 13) and some did lose them (Apollo 1).

Rant over, I’ll calm down and do some work now 🙂

Ahhh,but did it really happen,conspiracy theories are quite good. http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm

http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/050304_moon_snoop.html

Just playing devils advocate 😉 :diablo:

Given the political climate of the time, added with the fact Russia was winning the space race, now add in the fact that America was desperate to put one in the eye of those “nasty Ruskies” to save face, the possibility that it was staged cannot be totally discounted. Those photo’s were strange, and was the retouch made to try and make them look believable, or fake?

Unless you were aboard the Apollo craft heading for the moon, we’ll never truly know if it really happened or not! 😉

Also, have a look at Google moon which shows the landing sites – as an additional feature, if you zoom right in you can see what the moon is made of 🙂

Yup I wanted to be an Astronought too when I was young….I still play around with model-rockets which are good fun too.

TNZ

Magic Moon stuff

Great stuff and link’s, Lady’s and Gent’s 😀 .

Yes Harm jan, I have seen and read lot’s about his so called ” DARK ” Side with the German’s in WW2, but I looked at him, more of a man of science, with the dream of going to the Moon, and did not care who payed the bill’s :rolleyes: .

He did not want to go to the Russian’s, Why I am not sure! :p .

The Yank’s looked after Von real fine :rolleyes: , and glossed over the nasty back ground stuff, and then made him a real American Hero as well, Cash, girl’s the work’s 🙂 !.

Without him I think the Space program would never have happened, and the dreaded Cold War Helped Heap’s as well 😉 .

But I did read Verner had deep regret’s late in his life, about his doing’s in WW2.

Did all the Fake moon stuff, start with that Capricorn 1 movie rubbish(really not that bad) or what!!! :p .

O.k. who had dream’s of being a Astronought :rolleyes: , hand’s up now, don’t be shy now!! 😀 .

I still want to go to the moon, even now 😉 .

Just some interesting facts.

The Saturn V was 363 feet long , weighed 6,221,444 lbs and had a lift-off thrust of 7,680,982 lbs (or 160,000,000 horsepower) !!!!!!!!!!

The first stage burns for 2.5 minutes to an altitude of 40 miles high (or 211,000 ft) attaining a speed of 5,400 mph…….

Now that is something else !!!

TNZ

Re. the nutty conspiracy theories, I’ve always been of the opinion that yes, the landings DID all happen, but some twit at Nasa messed up the original photos big time by trying to retouch them etc, because many of them ARE clearly…well, ‘wrong’.

Fly Me To The Moon…..a great achievement ! 😀

One small step etc…..Thanks for reminding us of this day !

suddenly I feel very old !

Ahhh,but did it really happen,conspiracy theories are quite good. http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm

http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/050304_moon_snoop.html

Just playing devils advocate 😉 :diablo: