December 28, 2007 at 7:40 pm
Had a late gift today, secret US projects by Tony Buttler. I got to thinking, I daresay we would see a lot of TSR.2 votes, so as its my game thats excluded:rolleyes: of all the weird and wonderful cancelled projects over the years, what would you have liked to have seen come into service?
as for me, choice from the early Hawker jet fighters (I still think they would have done OK in Korea with the developed P.1081 etc) not the P.1154, supersonic VTOL took an age, and it just didn’t seem right to me, so I’ll say the P.1121, it just looks right….. any takers?
By: fw190uk - 9th June 2008 at 00:37
Heinkel He112, what if it had been developed like the bf109 by fitiing DB601/DB605 engines. It had the better airframe, wide track undercarrage.
By: mike currill - 8th June 2008 at 18:48
Although I’m not a fan of eggbeaters the one I’d like to have seen succeed has to be the Lockheed? Cheyanne. IIRC the designation was going to be AH63. No doubt someone better informed will correct me if I’m wrong.
By: CanberraA84-232 - 8th June 2008 at 17:29
CAC CA-15, very close to being the ultimate in piston engined fighters, and very much Australian, prototype acheived 502 mph in level flight.
By: Speedy - 8th June 2008 at 17:24
I think I’ve done this before, but…
What if Reginald Mitchell had not died young. What would his jet aircraft designs have looked and performed like around the end of WW2?
By: Arabella-Cox - 8th June 2008 at 16:30
oooo- Seamaster, I’d forgotten about that one. Better performance then a B-52, and amphibious… :drool:
Matt
I agree the P6M SeaMaster. Because of its thick wing skin approximately 1 inch thick at the root and its J75 engines it was capable of doing Mach 0.89 in the thick air near the deck.
Three P6M-2 were completed by the summer of 1959, the Navy was preparing for them to become operational in the next six months. When the program was abruptly cancelled on 21 August 1959 and all existing aircraft were immediately scrapped. What I find interesting is that NASA, Langley Research Center was still investigating Aerodynamics and Hydrodynamics Characteristics of Supersonic Seaplanes in February, 1960.
There have been statements that manned bombers were an expensive, unreliable way to deliver nuclear weapons and that the P6M could not be justified without the strategic mission.
I believe that US Navy’s Sea Power 21 wish they had a P6M-2 SeaMaster or its technological successor in their arsenal. I find it interesting that the Soviets never gave up their pursuit of advanced Seaplanes, Amphibians, or Wing In Ground Effect Vehicles.
By: Oxcart - 31st December 2007 at 14:14
B-70 Valkyrie for me!!- absolutely awesome
By: Bager1968 - 30th December 2007 at 05:08
Piasecki 16H-3… a smaller cousin of the rotodyne, under development in 1974, but cancelled.
http://www.piasecki.com/compound.htm
Note that the production division of The Piasecki Helicopter Corporation was renamed Vertol in 1956, and was purchased by Boeing in 1960.
By: mobryan - 30th December 2007 at 04:58
Martin P6M SeaMaster, Vought F8U-3 Crusader III, and North American F-107.
oooo- Seamaster, I’d forgotten about that one. Better performance then a B-52, and amphibious… :drool:
Matt
By: Flying-A - 30th December 2007 at 02:54
Martin P6M SeaMaster, Vought F8U-3 Crusader III, and North American F-107.
By: J Boyle - 30th December 2007 at 00:48
I’ll 2nd the V1000…was it also known as the VC7???
Transatlantic non stop, before the 707 could. And it had round windows! 🙂
Yes, it was also known as the VC.7.
Now whether or not it would have beaten the American jets for non-stop transattlantic service is open to debate. At any rate, the plane was dead by November 1955.
In the end, the RAF said it couldn’t wait until 1958 for transports…so it bought Britannias which were delivered in 1959..and BOAC said it would stick with the Comet and didn’t want to buy a new type for the few (they said six) they’d need for trans Atlantic operations.
Re the TSR. 2…would it have been worth the money in the long run?
Was it adaptable enough to meet the changing requirements of the 60-70s?
Would if have had a long service career or would it have been the UK equivelant of the B-58?
By: old shape - 29th December 2007 at 22:27
Maybe not the best looking or sexiest cancelled UK projects, but two that woould have helped UK industry…and aviation in general.
The V-1000 airliner. Based on my hero Bill Gunston’s comments in
“Plane Speaking”, it would have given the 707/DC-8 a real competitor. If successful…and developed into a sseries of jetliners…it would have saved (for lack of a better word) the UK airliner industry. Just think of a healthy complete industry, instead of just being a parts supplier to the French & Germans.
I’ll 2nd the V1000…was it also known as the VC7???
Transatlantic non stop, before the 707 could. And it had round windows! 🙂
By: mobryan - 29th December 2007 at 21:52
Douglas Skyshark, Flying Flapjack, Tupolev Boot. In no particular order 😉
Matt
By: Jolanta Nowak - 29th December 2007 at 21:52
Hey, thanks for that.
I’m pretty sure I saw a photo of a mock-up rather than just an artist’s impression but, yes, it could well have been this idea…
… although just how ‘inexpensive’ it would have been is open to debate!
By: MrBlueSky - 29th December 2007 at 21:41
It might be just my imagination but I’m pretty sure I recall seeing a mock up of Concorde in RAF markings.
Bomber?
Stand off missile carrier?
Super Blairforce One type?Whatever, it would have been cool x power N….

By: Jolanta Nowak - 29th December 2007 at 21:16
It might be just my imagination but I’m pretty sure I recall seeing a mock up of Concorde in RAF markings.
Bomber?
Stand off missile carrier?
Super Blairforce One type?
Whatever, it would have been cool x power N….
By: Nashio966 - 29th December 2007 at 17:34
ill second that, it looked amazing!!! in black too! 😀
By: Bazza333 - 29th December 2007 at 17:24
Valiant B.Mk2………….great looking aircraft that would have seen service for many years.
By: Nashio966 - 29th December 2007 at 16:46
whats wrong with the TSR.2?!!
By: JägerMarty - 29th December 2007 at 16:16
This fascination of some with the TSR2 here begs belief at times…
each to their own
By: Cees Broere - 29th December 2007 at 15:14
The “Super”Stirling with enlarged wingspan and cranked up tail
Cheers
Cees