F/A-18 internation road map looks wrong, loving the LCH and the digital camo on the TD-2, seems that they have put some strakes/plates on the Sitara IJT do not remember those edges/plates from the very first set of pictures we saw of the SITARA dont remember them from the photos i have off it from Farnborough or Paris (cant remember which one)…

LCA looks cool but MKI still has it…

Are all attack helicopters and helicopters IAF, or will the IA get some LCH’s as well? does it even matter?

You did say that Embraer is ahead of HAL in making fighter jets…something you have not been able to defend.

Not factually correct

it veered off the runway. That is hardly a crash. The airframe was put back into service. There have been fighters with ACTUAL crashes that didn’t get derailed.

Anyway, its interesting that you should point out that particular accident only. Kind of shows what your mindset really is where nothing India does is good enough and has to be criticised just for the heck of it.

BTW, its a jet even if not a fighter- I’d like you to show me one Embraer fighter jet. Oh and the AMX is not just Embraer, it was only 30% or so of Embraer workshare.

Its not my mindset, I cant help it if HAL arent able to produce fighter aircraft after so many years trying. But I am not going to go on as a Internet warrior defending things (HAL) that should not be.

Far as I understanding the Sitara was only involved one crash so if you put up a picture of them flying what other crashes would I talk off? Or should I not say something because its made in India? Also read my comments again.

Anyway I still do not see a list of military fighter jet that are designed and built by HAL.

I have not said anything about the AMX or made any claims about Embraer having made or currently making fighter jets.

Good to see HAL has not shelved the project after the crash, it has a quick initial phase but has not been in the news for ages..

This may be down to me not being a good historian or a good engineer but I did not think the above is a fighter jet…

swerve, the s-tank used the british L7.

of course matt, I’m ahead of you in engineering because I aced my history exam and you didn’t. that means I fulfilled my goals and you didn’t, and this degree in history automatically makes me a better engineer than you are.
impeccable logic from matt world. 😎

Well I claim neither to be a expert engineer a good engineer or a expert historian or historian.

Your very welcome to be a better engineer and as such i would be grateful if you could list all the great military fighter jets HAL has sucessfully designed and built…

We should just carry on funding the BAe UAV and UCAVs let Industry Delivery what is needed….

Do not see the point of the UK spending shed loads on aircraft. Atleast not for the next 5 years, after the economy recovers they can go crazy…

Typhoon is more than capable for that…

embraer’s sole experience in fast jets (well not that fast) is the joint production of the trainer class AMX. much like saab it doesn’t own the little things that go into an aircraft (even in the class it has mastered i.e civil airliners) and is more of an assembler, although saab does at least develop some of its tech.

HAL/ADA/DRDO among them have vastly more capability in a wide front of areas that embraer simply outsources from elsewhere. it surely makes for a good business model but I don’t see how it makes them even remotely interesting as a tech partner for HAL/ADA in developing something as complex as AMCA. to call them ahead is laughable.

but then you do have some strange ideas so can’t say I’m surprised.

It does not matter what you say of my ideas, wont change the fact that when it comes down to it, to pull Indian Aerospace up by its boot straps a company like SAAB is needed.