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France Loses Out as Saudis Sign $2.2 Billion Deal for Russian Helos

(Source: defense-aerospace.com; published Oct. 30, 2007)

By Giovanni de Briganti

PARIS — In an abrupt policy shift, Saudi Arabia has signed an agreement to buy over 150 Russian-made Mi-35 Hind and Mi-17 Hip helicopters worth over $2.2 billion, ending French hopes of sealing a long-delayed sale of 148 helicopters and raising doubts about future French arms sales to the Saudi kingdom.

Sources say the Memorandum of Understanding with Russia was signed in Ryad in mid-September by members of the private cabinet of Saudi King Abdallah bin Abd al-Aziz Al Saud, and follows extended visits to Russia by Saudi military delegations in February and March 2007 to appraise the capabilities of Russian helicopters and other weapons.

The sources also said that Saudi Arabia appears to have decided to buy T-90 main battle tanks and medium-range air-defense systems from Russia, replacing previous plans to buy French-made Leclerc tanks and Aster 30 SAMP/T air-defense systems. No agreement has yet been signed for these systems, however,

Eurocopter confirmed that Saudi Arabia has opted for Russian helicopters, but said the company’s future prospects in the country remained unclear. Nexter, manufacturer of the Leclerc tank, and missile maker MBDA had no comment on the status of their dealings with Saudi Arabia.

Wishful thinking. Specs of J-10 haven’t been released yet.

The wishful thinking is on your part. chinese products haven’t inspired much confidence from its users. They are great for low cost.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20071030/85919342.html

Same news but what is that aircraft shown on top?

Su-30MK it too obsolete for Iran to spend money in long term. J-10 does not stand a chance on technical merits.

Obsolete in what sense? It is more modern than anything they operate currently. It is also better than anything china can offer. If russia is willing to sell Su-30 why not Su-35? It would be ideal to replace the F-14’s. Add a few Mig-29M/35’s and you have a pretty decent high low mixture. Additional F-5 supplement or JF-17’s can make up numbers.

I would be surprised if Iran buys J-10 before it is even offered to pakistan. Anyway since the report has been denied lets just wait and watch.

Dream on. Do you think that Tommy Hilfiger is made in Chicago? Or that Ralph Lauren uses textil from Ohio? Or that the pair of expensive Nikes you are wearing were completed in California using components from Wisconsin?

You cannot stop China purely by saying *we purchase nothing from you* more than Europe could stop US by saying the same. You are dealing with an emerging superpower here, don’t be naieve.

Patent Rubbish !!. Textiles is chinas trump card?? Phah emerging superpower :rolleyes: . Textiles also come in abundance from India, pakistan and bangladesh. To think that US would let korea be attacked for Tommy Hilfiger, you must be high on “high quality” chinese stuff.

Does PV-1 carry a radar? If so what? El-2032/2052/MMR? Whats up with Harry nowadays?