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  • in reply to: Indian navy – news & discussion #2072274
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    Well, then India will have to live with approximate parity sandwiched between China and Pakistan! Personally, I don’t think that is exceptable to them…………:rolleyes:

    If they bought US weapons it would be adantage china-pak.:p . Rafale + MKI is sufficient to counter any threat in this region and far superior to F-18+MKI combo.

    in reply to: Indian navy – news & discussion #2072290
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    I have to admit the French Rafale does have some possibilities? Basically, somewhere between the Russian and American Designs. Yet, I still have my doubts…………….If, India decides to stay the course she will buy Russian. On the otherhand if she feels she needs closer ties with the West (i.e. US) and a bigger Technological Advantage she will go American………….I like the Rafale and could be a good choice for India. Yet, I just don’t see it happening………………..IMO

    Sorry, I haven’t relented just yet…………:rolleyes:

    Keep up with the news. The Nuke deal will be rejected by India and thats the only hope for F-18. On technical merit that plane will never win. 😀

    Staying on course would mean buying planes from western source (Since Mig-29k and MKI deal are with russia, our traditional supplier), which would be France . A deal with US offers very poor technological returns not to mention probably obsolete technology that will not work during wartime. F-18 for India will never happen, not even if the nuke deal went through. Its basically Rafale or Mig-35.

    in reply to: Indian navy – news & discussion #2072306
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    It won’t. The UK is the USAs closest ally. We have a common pool of Trident missiles, fer chrissake! If we have this much trouble just trying to get the USA to abide by its original undertakings, so we can integrate our own weapons on the F-35 & maintain them ourselves – well, think about what it’ll be like for India. Frankly, if I was the head of the Indian air force, I’d be hammering on the doors of politicians shouting “I’ll have whatever you like, as long as it isn’t American”, & telling my subordinates to sort out the best ToT terms possible with all the non-US candidates, because the one thing I’d know – absolutely, no doubts – is that buying American would be to lose control. Russian missiles? Dream on . . . . . Upgrade it yourselves? Don’t make me laugh! Fit your own avionics? Well, maybe, if you tell the USA (& your rival US firms) exactly how to jam them, how to copy them, & give them full rights to use your technology.

    Thanks swerve, thats exactly what I have been trying to tell everyone. UK has been the closest and most loyal defence partner US had and the shabby way in which they were treated was distasteful. Not to mention if anyone followed how US arm twisted SK and singapore into buying the F-15’s over superior planes no one in their right mind would shift from russian and french weapons to american ones.

    US weapons industry will survive without India as customer but Indian armed forces will be reduced to useless puppets if they bought american weapons.

    in reply to: Indian navy – news & discussion #2072312
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    India needs a tech edge and who is going to give it to them……………..she needs either the US or Europe!

    Atlast you relent. Yes and the answer is europe in general and france in particular ?(Read Rafale).

    in reply to: Indian navy – news & discussion #2072320
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    The question is not just if US trusts india but also if India trusts Us? I don’t think there will be any TOT deal offered and IAF will not be comfortable having an american plane they don’t expect to work when needed. Rafale, MKI and Mig-35 don’t have these issues. Selecting F-18 over Rafale would be a step backwards not forward. Even more MKI would be better.

    Now that the nuke deal looks like being on the verge of being rejected by GOI. I see almost no future for F-18 E/F in India. Putins visit in Jan will probably be when we know something concrete about any progress in MRCA deal.

    in reply to: Update please #2072330
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    Hasn’t USN alrady retired all Austin class LHD’s? I wonder if IN would purchase the remaining stock of spares that USN would not need.

    in reply to: Indian navy – news & discussion #2072338
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    Breakthrough as UK signs technology transfer deal with USA to allow Lockheed Martin F-35 JSF purchase to go ahead

    That has been resolved now, we have “operational sovereignty”

    UK has been US ally for almost 5 decades. It had to go through all this to get “operational sovereignty”. Why would India be cleared for full TOT?

    in reply to: Update please #2072348
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    Another thing that seems to have been over looked here (especially from the logistics king- Scooter), is the different tools needed for the Trenton! Remember that the US is the last bastion of “Imperial” mesaurements, thus this ship will require a completely new tool box just for it!

    Not a very well thought through purchace!

    I agree using trenton for anything other than learning the ropes on how to operate a LHD would be big waste of money. I hope they don’t plan to ever repair or overhaul that ship. Basically just buy it will any spares available from USN and make use of it till the ship starts falling apart or has to be retired.

    A question regarding the Sea kings though, are the american seaing different from the one IN bought from augusta westland in terms of measurement units or would these 6 sea ings be another logistic nightmare.

    in reply to: Indian navy – news & discussion #2072360
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    A $ 6-10 billion order can open many doors. Add to that all other juicy contracts, possibilities are endless.

    Boeing can’t even meet the 30 % direct offset clause. They are alreay out of the race. LM was never in the race.

    in reply to: Indian navy – news & discussion #2072606
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    Further, I think India wants an more advance type………at least a 4.5 generation fighter.:diablo:

    Thats where the rafale fits in and whorenet:p fails.

    in reply to: Indian navy – news & discussion #2072688
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    I agree with you that only time will tell, but there will be no F-18 in IAF. India will insist on co-development or full TOT for any critical deal (like scorpene, Mistral class, brahmos, barak-2 etc) and US will fail to do so. Indo-US military ties will eventually wane down and die their natural death.

    in reply to: Indian navy – news & discussion #2072706
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    The point is that China is a major threat to India and Russia has close ties! Usually you don’t want potential adversary to have military access to your most secret of capabilities……..As for the Rafale and winning the MRCA Contest not likley. Funny, you seem not able to have a construct of debate without being rude? Sorry, but your lack of maturity is showing……..;)

    There is no point having a debate with someone living in denial. Open your eyes, India will never buy anything of stratergic value from US.

    Rafale is the most likely choice for MMRCA. IAF will never allow a mediocre plane like F-18 to enter service. China is a major threat and Pakistan with american weapons is also a threat. Somehow your brain seems unable to comprehend that Indian armed forces do not consider americans their allies. US had offered joint development of F-35 which was rejected outright, the same will happen to the whorenets and the 737 based wedgetail that is being offered.

    Russia always sells downgraded stuff to china, nothing new there. India will continue joint development with Russia, israel and france. You are simply blind if you cannot see the obvious.

    in reply to: Indian navy – news & discussion #2072782
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    I can’t believe India would be happy with Russian Military ties with China?

    You don’t have to believe but they trust Russia more than US for sure.

    in reply to: Indian navy – news & discussion #2072808
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    Is it possible we could see a shift from mainly Russia Equipment to American for India’s Armed Forces? Especially, consider Russia’s closer ties to China…..

    Nope, mainly due to USA’s close ties with terrorist/tinpot dictatorship regieme to our west. Russia, france and israel will continue to be main partners.

    in reply to: Indian navy – news & discussion #2072919
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    Well, do a search of my posting in regards to the Super Hornet. Also, how is it that the Super Hornet has been short-listed in the MCRA Competition. Yet, according to you its doesn’t even meet the basic requirements………..:rolleyes:

    LO yes a lumbering 30 tonn class junk that is outclassed by MKI fits the requirement for a 20 ton plane….:diablo:

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