Ghandis policy vis-a-vis world affairs post Raj India? hmm I dont think I have read anything about those please fill me in.
Do read up and stop waiting to be spoon fed. Google up details.
So seriously I am really interested in knowing who actually helped India get into the spot light, and highlight the troubles people where facing in India at that time? What singular person, not events or happenstance, helped move India closer to freedom and gain freedom than Ghandi? Who united more people than him?
Anyway possibly for another thread, but I would also like to know, since you denounce Ghandi so Easily and so Quickly what you have done for India in your life that exceeds Ghandis attempts.
Please stop the cong BS. Britain had no choice after the hammering it took from the Germans. After WW-2 Britain was in no position to hold on to anything. So stop with the BS already. The only reason a slew of nations got freedom from africa to Asia in the late 40’s-50’s is because Germans pummelled Britain bad and good for them. Frankly I admire Bose more than Gandhi. What nehru did to the INA war vetrans is also very well known. Gandhi was the sole reason nehru was built up as the first PM, other than F**king Edwina mountbatten, What has he done? Patel would have been a far more competent PM anyday.
it won’t be too long till a bear breaks and the crew have to be rescued, wonder who will be doing the rescuing….?
Would that be before or after an antiquated B-52 accidentally nukes US?? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
The ones who still believe in following gandhi’s stupid policy even though the world has moved on. As to the BS that gandhi got India freedom.What can I say, Cong has done a good job of praising themselves throughout history.
Thanks for the pics. Does India have any intention of a follow on order?
Actually whats you point about pakistan buying F16’s with its own money? It would still be a breach of agreement to give one to china or even let them have a look at the avionics. US can put sanctions in that case, though I know thats not why they withheld the F16’s.
Actually they not the same people. Indians now are not the gandhivadi or nehruvian retards who used to be around in the 50’s and 60’s. They are more pragmatic and realize arabs and India have no common stratergic interest.
The M2k production line was offered to india in the 80’s. Only after they turned it down was anything offered to pakistan. The Marlin is a non starter as it has been scrapped and DCN was trying to sell scorpene itself to PN. PN seems to prefer the german boats though.
Wishful thinking… Pakistan knows China is its primary ally. US will do diddly squat against india. France has been selling older gen stuff to pakistan for a while. India knows this and can counter it. Russia is a better bet for India that US any day of the week. Lets see
1) No strings
2) Already have the logistics
3) Always get way better stuff than china gets
4) Military alliance
5) Access to stuff that US and EU simply cannot offer: Nuke subs, Military signals from GLONASS and Fifth gen fighter co development.
An alliance with US is not worth the paper its signed on. We saw how roaring Uncle sam became a whimpering pussy cat when NK exploded one piddly lil bomb. US can do nothing against china.
The US sale of F-16 and AMRAAMs come with a very strict verification regime to make sure that the technology does not fall into Chinese hand. France will not be able to enforce anything similar. Additionally these Radars are going to be fitted on a Chinese designed aircraft. No way it can be done without Chinese involvement. So you cant compare American sales to French sales. Maybe enough to tip the scales in favor of the Typhoon for the MRCA.
This is patent rubbish. US knows it cannot control chinese looking into the fighters if pakistan so wishes. They will hence downgrade the models severely. The French are doing the same. The RC400 is not comparable to what is being offered in rafale or upgraded in M2k to M2k-5/9 deal. The Marlin has no future and France will be hoping for a follow on deal of scorpene from India.
Except the carrier everything seems ok. Maybe they count the reserve invincible as a part of the fleet.
Sweden, czech, hungary, South Africa and Thailand. Who is the sixth?
Bush is always there 😀
On a totally unrelated note 😀
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India_says_no_to_logistics_deal_with_US_for_now/articleshow/2817693.cms
India says no to logistics deal with US, for now
NEW DELHI: India is keen to further bolster defence ties with US, with more joint combat exercises to build interoperability, procurement of military hardware and pacts to ensure secrecy and end-use verification of American defence equipment.
But the Logistics Support Agreement (LSA), proposed by US over two years ago on the lines of its Access and Cross-Servicing Agreements signed with over 60 countries, is off the Indian radar screens for now.
This, in short, is the Indian defence establishment’s message for visiting US Secretary of Defence Robert Gates. With the UPA government still floundering to propel the Indo-US civil nuclear deal towards a successful conclusion, it does not want to further antagonise the Left by signing the LSA.
Under the LSA, Indian and American militaries propose to provide each other with logistic support, refuelling and berthing facilities for each other’s warships and aircraft, spares and other services on a reimbursable or equal-value exchange basis. With CPM leader Prakash Karat describing the LSA as ”far more dangerous than the nuclear deal” in its implications, the agreement has been stuck in the Cabinet Committee of Security for the final approval for quite some time now.
Kilo’s fire the club through the tubes not VLS. Anyway Kilos only carry 5 klubs not much.
I dont know the intimate details of why GTRE is such a joke, however it doest not interest me much except for its end goal of powering the LCA.
All I was aiming to point out/say is that Brazil/Embraer is positioned to build a fighter jet if the will was there. Fortunately or unfortunately they dont choose to.
Which was never the point of contention and was needlessly bought up by you.
India uses NATO names not russian names. The SAMs and Subs are called after the NATO reporting names.