Will Chile join this common army? Will Peru, boivia and ecuador be ready to share an army? You still haven’t answered me as to who the common enemy or the threat is percieved to be?

You need t do some reading, it will happen i can prove it to you.

Brazil is at no more than 15 years to become an space fairing nation, with its own satellite launcher,

they will have a locally made cargo aircraft the C390

So ? It will be 11 or more likely 12th country to join the list congrats. How long before it can launch its on weather, comm and recon sats? It will take 3 decades easily. The c-390 is seems like a useful option but who is providing the engines?

,already Brazil has AWACs the R-99 ad light fighters the AMX, Argentina has built the CH-14 helicopter

and has recovered the FMA from americans hands, they plan to have their own South american Banking system and create their own common currency, already Brazil has Satellites built with Chinese-Brazilian technology, Brazil very likely will stablish a United South america by 2030 and once the have full command of the nuclear sub technology and missile technology very likely the total independence of South american will be stablished.

The R-99 is eyerie (swedish) fitted on the embrarer damn it! AMX was built with italian help and can brazil or SA make a fighter on its own? Yes, I would guess in 3-4 decades. Leave the CH-14 out it is a very basic light attack heli with more use in COIN or anti Drug warfare that real wars. But its a start, kudos to argies. The CBERS seems more of chinese initiative but if brazil can built its own satellites at a later date, good for them but again will take atleast a couple of decades to build comm sats. When exactly was SA not independent? The Nuke sub unless its a boomer seems of little use in maintaining a deterrence but again to reach there easily 3 decades.

here are some Peruvian made sonda Rocket Very likely Brazil will lead a a south american space program

here it is said Brazil and Argentina plan to build a satelllite togather[/B] Brazilian made VS-30 sonda rocket

Brazil already leads the SA space program. Whats your point? Are you saying they will share it with other SA countries?

Mercosur is South America’s leading trading bloc. Known as the Common Market of the South, it aims to bring about the free movement of goods, capital, services and people among its member states.

It has been likened to the European Union, but with an area of 12m sq km (4.6m sq miles), it is four times as big. The bloc’s combined market encompasses more than 250m people and accounts for more than three-quarters of the economic activity on the continent.

Mercosur was set up in March 1991 by Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay under the Treaty of Asuncion. The 1994 Treaty of Ouro Preto gave the body a wider international status and formalised a customs union.

Brazil and Argentina are Mercosur’s economic giants. Bolivia, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador and Peru are associate members; they can join free-trade agreements but remain outside the bloc’s customs union. Moves to include Chile as a full member were suspended after Santiago signed a free-trade deal with the US in 2002

So you already have a member who will not join the SA union? YEs I can see that a FTA with local SA nations can be beneficial especially to Brazil and argentina but do you seriously see the block challenging US or EU economically in another 3-4 decades? I certainly don’t.

i doubt they will attack again, i see no probability, however not because of the lack of weaponry in future years, in fact i think South america might become a military block and in future years might become a nuclear armed zone or at least a new military power, Brazil aims is to create a South american nation alongside Venezuela`s bolivarian revolution but with an economy as large as Germany or even Japan in the next 15 years.

The first step theya re planing is keep South american for the South americans and that measn several nuclear submarines aircraft carriers and local made weapons already they have AWACS, light attack aircraft and soon to be joined by an Brazilian-Argentine made transport aircraft

Ok you need to slow down. Whatever you said is not likely to occur in the next 3-4 decades.

True chile just bought the scorpenes. Both Brazi and argentina have built subs, I assume french expertise is limited to installing a reactor on the hull. Its too early to speculate seeing no specifications have been released.

So its just goin to be a SSN/ Any missiles being developed for it/ Or would it just use exocet?

Hmm I would have assumed arentina would try to acquire a carrier first or some flat-top.

Amur has a good chance of winning despite IN not really liking it? Yes it can fire brahmos but is inferior to scorpene in every other way. I am not sure why 2 different sub lines are required? If MDL and DCN can fit brahmos on scorpene it is the ideal solution.

Japan has C-X. I would be surprised if they wanted C-17’s. But you never know. C-17 for India makes no sense. they would most likely aquire more IL-76 at a later stage.