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  • in reply to: Russian UAC Ilyushin Il-96/Il-98 KC-X Tanker Bid #2422053
    irtusk
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    One thing good about IL 76-78 is you can always get spares from Ukraine.

    This isn’t the Il-76/78

    This is the Il-96/98

    Only 17 have been built according to the wiki

    http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd1/flug52/RA-96012IlyushinIL-96-300RussiaS-1.jpg

    http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd1/flug52/RA-96012IlyushinIL-96-300RussiaStat.jpg

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-96

    in reply to: EADS lobbying for tanker deadline extension #2422229
    irtusk
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    Premature April Fools? :p

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703580904575132081360882728.html?mod=WSJ_business_whatsNews

    I eagerly await Russia’s boom design . . .

    If by some miracle they do bid and meet all requirements (pretty sure they’ll fail ‘risk’ if nothing else), it would be hilarious for the ‘price-shootout’ format to bite Boeing in the butt

    EADS Steps Gingerly To KC-X Bid

    http://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/03/19/eads-steps-gingerly-to-kc-x-bid/

    EADS formally confirmed this morning that it is considering an independent bid on the KC-X program.

    The press statement said that the Pentagon “indicated” yesterday that “it would welcome a proposal from EADS North America as prime contractor for the KC-X tanker competition.” In a bit of masterly understatement, the company notes that, “This is a significant development.”

    in reply to: EADS lobbying for tanker deadline extension #2422511
    irtusk
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    unsubstantiated rumor from PPRUNE

    I have just had it confirmed from a very reliable and very senior source that Airbus Military ARE indeed bidding for KC-X.

    in reply to: EADS lobbying for tanker deadline extension #2422856
    irtusk
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    Moot now tho……..

    why’s that?

    in reply to: EADS lobbying for tanker deadline extension #2422945
    irtusk
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    Pentagon Willing To Allow EADS Time for KC-X Bid

    “The Department has received notification from EADS North America indicating possible interest in competing for the Air Force’s KC-X Tanker and we would welcome that. Consistent with our commitment to conduct a fair and open competition, the Department invites proposals from all qualified contractors and, if necessary, we would consider a reasonable extension to the RFP deadline. That is not unusual. In fact, a few recent examples include BAMS, VH-71, Small Diameter Bomb (SDB) II, LOGCAP IV, LCS, LPD-17 Repair Services, and FMTV.”

    in reply to: EADS lobbying for tanker deadline extension #2425688
    irtusk
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    Even if you think the KC-767 is the better choice, you should still want an EADS bid just to keep Boeing honest.

    Having no competition does the taxpayer no favors

    in reply to: EADS lobbying for tanker deadline extension #2425728
    irtusk
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    It’s over:
    http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/03/12/339339/gallois-rules-out-an-eads-bid-for-the-new-us-tanker-competition.html

    That’s old news (from the 9th) and represents the truth given the current circumstances.

    If the circumstances change (deadline is extended) they might change their mind

    in reply to: EADS lobbying for tanker deadline extension #2425859
    irtusk
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    One should tell them to STFU. Boeing won, EADS did not have a product it could sent into the competition.

    If they don’t have a product, why are they asking for an extension?

    So they can submit a non-existent product?

    They clearly have something they want to submit, but just need more time to get a bid together since NG pulled the rug out from under them.

    I guess the question is ‘how much time is reasonable?’

    After all the delays the program has been through, I don’t think waiting another, say 5 months, would hurt anything, especially if it forced Boeing to submit a more competitive bid.

    in reply to: EADS lobbying for tanker deadline extension #2425863
    irtusk
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    Why? It’s not like they didn’t know what the deadline was. I guess they weren’t expecting the US to call their bluff. :p

    ?

    It was NG who threatened to pull out, and it was no bluff.

    Apparently EADS always wanted to continue.

    in reply to: No Bid for NG/EADS Tanker #2426103
    irtusk
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    You may well be right; however, it doesn’t matter. The RFP to which both were responding said, “You have to do this”. That was the requirement.

    Yes, thank you for recapitulating one of the eight points the GAO made :rolleyes:

    However, getting back to the original point, refueling the V-22 was never a requirement.

    Thank you

    in reply to: Silver lining to KC-X? #2427100
    irtusk
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    When it became apparent that you could park more 767s than 330s, AF simply reduced the required distance between wingtips in calculating how many 330s could be parked on a ramp of specified size to get the numbers up. They didn’t do this in the RFP, they did it after the proposals were received, during the evaluation.

    Yes, I thought you sounded familiar 😉

    Ah, the old ‘The AF cheated in the IFARA scoring’ chestnut.

    I think we know how this one goes. I point out that the GAO found no issue with the IFARA score and ask you to prove your assertion without relying on a Boeing press release.

    You totally ignore said request but repeat your unfounded claim next time it becomes convenient.

    I call you on said claim and ask you to back it up, you ignore said request, repeat ad infinitum.

    in reply to: Silver lining to KC-X? #2427230
    irtusk
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    Can’t buy that. If that were true, they’d try and do it the first way again, because that would “validate” their strategy. In this case they’re doing whatever they can to get new a/c into service.

    Way to contradict yourself 😀

    The second statement is exactly what I said. They are doing what they can to get new a/c into service by 1) putting the needs of the acquistion team ahead of the needs of the warfighter and 2) selecting a tanker that Congress will allow them to have

    The choice always was whether they wanted more booms available and the ability to operate from more fields vs. more fuel offload per aircraft and greater cargo capability.

    Absolutely false. There were going to be the same number of booms (179) regardless of which tanker was selected. And as the IFARA score showed, the KC-30 mopped up the KC-767 in real-world operational effectiveness.

    As far as the more fields, that isn’t clear at all. Compared to the base 767, the A330 can operate from more fields because of its shorter balanced field length. With this variant of the Frankentanker and its longer wings, they may have improved their takeoff performance enough to take the lead, but if they have, it’s not by much.

    Regardless, it doesn’t matter much because tankers don’t operate out of austere FOBs for the simple reason they don’t have enough fuel available. A perfect example is how the tankers for Afghanistan operate out of Manas in Kyrgyzstan. Having to operate from a base a long way from the action is becoming typical and really shows off the advantage of the longer-ranged KC-30

    in reply to: No Bid for NG/EADS Tanker #2427252
    irtusk
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    Direct quote from the GAO findings:

    “3. Protest is sustained, where the record does not demonstrate the reasonableness of the agency’s determination that the awardee’s proposed aerial refueling tanker could refuel all current Air Force fixed-wing tanker-compatible receiver aircraft in accordance with current Air Force procedures, as required by the solicitation. “

    Among the aircraft this finding specifically applied to was the V-22. Note the last four words of the finding: “…as required by the solicitation”.

    You misinterpreted what they were saying. The ‘as required’ referred to ‘in accordance with current Air Force procedures’

    NG/EADS showed that the KC-30 could refuel the V-22, but the procedure required was different than the current Air Force procedure.

    NG/EADS was able to convince the AF that their way of refueling the V-22 was safe and effective. Nevertheless they got caught up in the technicality that it wasn’t the same as the current procedure.

    Read the full GAO decision if you don’t believe me. It had something to do with the plane’s max speed in breakaway procedures.

    in reply to: Silver lining to KC-X? #2427254
    irtusk
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    It was done to get the KC-135 replacement back on track, and very importantly, to make an award that would not be bogged down in more protests as have been happening recently because USAF keeps messing up on their selections.

    Exactly, this time they put the needs of the acquisition team ahead of the needs of the warfighter.

    in reply to: No Bid for NG/EADS Tanker #2427299
    irtusk
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    The V-22 was one of the aircraft that the original RFP required be documented that it could be refueled by the KC-X.

    No

    Refuelling the V-22 was never a requirement of the last RFP.

    It was in the optional credit section.

    3.2.10.1.1.10 The aircraft should be capable of aerial refueling all current USAF tanker compatible tilt rotor receiver aircraft using above criteria (OBJECTIVE, KPP #1).

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