The Navy have launched a “Fly Navy 100” celebration, I have attached the video link:

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/server/show/ConMediaFile.45950/changeNav/6568

Clearly a reply to the RAF’s “One Nation One Airforce” campaign, also I suspect a calculated exercise at pissing off the RAF considering they are celebrating their 90th aniversary.

Wish both services would just grow up sometimes…

Great Video!!! Thank you very much!!!

But, It’s bloody annoying how the RAF & RN are taking pathetic pot shots at each other…Its kinda embarrasing. They really, REALLY have to realise, and the British army too, that they are always going to need each other everytime, no matter what. I’m sure they do realise, but don’t want to admit it, saying that, if any one was in the sh*t, I’m 110% sure the other two services would be there to get’em out of it! If I was in any one of these services, say for example the British army, I’d be mightly proud to have the RAF & RN on my side, there’d be NO OTHER Air Force or Navy in the world I’d want.

And as a British civvy, I am mightily, enormously, monumentally proud of the British Armed Forces, can’t find enough great words to discribe them. No other armed force in this world I’d want!

And as long as Britian remains to exist, we’ll ALWAYS have at least 3 things to be proud of: RAF, RN and the British Army! Fact!

And just like to add: RAF/RN/British Army, only small but ******* me what a punch! Like a Lennox Lewis right uppercut!!:D

I was out last night walking the dog when a formation of Stuka dive bombers flew overhead! It seems there are a hell of alot of them about these days, I suspect they were more then likely looking for those faulty armourless carriers:rolleyes:

And, “BS”, by the looks of it, they missed you. Pity!

Anyway who mentioned Stukas?…Yep, I agree that dive bombing fell into decline after WWII, theres much better accuracy from smaller dive angles with computer aided gizmos & such as we all know, but if a modern fighter bomber wanted to do that type of attack on any target, maybe not in such a steep dive, but certainly near enough, it can be done. Its still a very accurate way of delivering ordnance. If anyone chooses to do so that is. Thats all I’m saying.

The U-2 was operated from NATO-bases and if I remember well, Britain was and still is a member of the NATO. To have such useless fun, that pilots had to be informed by the ground-control about that U-2 and guided in that direction as the U-2 pilot was informed too about such exercise. At high altitude the cruise-speed and related stalling margin were less than 20 kts for the U-2. :diablo: Claimed as “walking on the rope”. So none had a real intrest, that both did come close for a brief moment only. 😉

I am still waiting for the high-flying threat of the SU outside the reach of the SAMs?

Yep, we’re still a member of NATO. Don’t think it was useless fun, well maybe it was for the Yanks when they found out they weren’t safe from fighters at that height, but I’m sure us Brits had quite a giggle when one of out Lightnings dropped from above onto a U-2. One up. :diablo:

Have a nice! (In a Yank accent) Don’t be offended, just humour! 😀

Yeah those Stuka’s are a real menace

WOW Barry Scott, or, “BS”, you know the name of an aeroplane. Very good, you win a cookie…..Ooops, don’t feed the troll*. :rolleyes:

Like I say, don’t agree with the day of the dive bomber is over. Remember when a certain air force said the gun was obsolete?….

This is question I always asking. 😀 …… Don’t know about it and can not calculate the possibility since I still didn’t heard about the detail Gripen weapon package. I wish RTAF would order it but they more likely to stay on thier AMRAAM. 😮

If they just stick with AMRAAM, I’d be quite shocked, but if they can’t afford to purchase Meteor, then, what else can they do. But if they can afford Meteor, then they definitely should buy it/them. And also, purchase IRS-T or ASRAAM if its possible, well if they can afford them, no reason why they shouldn’t. What an aircraft can do itself is important, but its what type of weapon it carries that makes it more deadly. For example the Tornado F3 with AMRAAM & ASRAAM.

The RTAF have made a very good desision in buying Gripen. Very good little aeroplane. A bit of a dark horse if you ask me, I wouldn’t mind if the RAF bought a few. 🙂

This thread WAS interesting a few pages ago, instead its just turned into yet another “This is better than that” thread. Same crap, European/Russian/Chinese aviation is all talk where as American is Gospel….:rolleyes:

Nothing wrong with copying something, especialy if, “Whatever” is worth copying….If you can get away with it that is….:diablo:

Yak-41>……….**Drum role**……….F-35B! Ta Daaaa!!! :diablo:

Ooooops sooo sorry about that last bit, (NOT!) couldn’t resist!! :diablo:

Whats right for one country, is wrong for another. As the saying is known.

Some nice trolling there, again.

Speak for yourself……:rolleyes:

Getting a bit “Warm” here ain’t it?…:(
Can see another thread being locked AGAIN soon*…:rolleyes:

All of this, this vs that & that vs this is probably going to end up being not very nice. Plus it gets very one sided & boring after a while. Some, (mention no names) seem to think the F-35 will be better than the PAK-FA, some seem to think the PAK-FA will be better than the F-35…..Yes, we know a little, tiny bit about the F35, but, we know, pretty much next to nothing about the PAK-FA, we don’t even know what the frikin thing even looks like let alone what it can do. All I’ve heard is that it’s designed to counter western aircraft. Thats pretty much it, never heard, read, watched the RuAF or its makers say; “Nothing is going to match this aircraft in the air to air arena etc etc etc”, if they have said such things then I’ve certainly missed them. Unlike LM that seem to think their toys are God made. But hey thats just them trying to sell the things. And about which one is better, F-22/F-35, I watched, (the latest series?) of “Future Weapons”, and the first one I seen, just a random episode, featured the F-22, interesting, talked about it, said it was, and WILL BE the best air-superiority fighter right now blah blah blah. Their normal talk you know. Expected that. Then a few weeks later, sooner or later, they featured the F-35….Now, they pretty much said the same thing about IT, as they did about the F-22……Seems to me they can’t make their minds up whats going to be “The Best”….Bless their little cotton socks. Stuff like that that makes me think; ohhh c’mon ffs, yes, its marketing & all, but please….:rolleyes:

Pretty much like the RAF saying in WWII that the Hurricane is the best…But also, the Spitfire is the best too…..Makes no sense…

So, my point. It’s just too early to say what is better & what isn’t, F-35 is still in development, hardly a world beater right now is it, yes it SHOULD be damn frikin good, (better frikin should be with amount of cash thats been thrown at it)….And the PAK-FA, well like I said we don’t even know what it looks like let alone what it can do & can’t do. Way too early to say. But it’s nice to speculate about it, makes interesting reading….But every once and a while it becomes just silly reading of silly comments, biased crap from BOTH sides….