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  • in reply to: Predict the winners! #2488383
    EELightning
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    Well, the UK and Italy are looking good and Spain will have to replace all of those F-1’s and F/A-18’s sooner or later……….:D

    Looking good? Well the way the UK are going at the moment with defence cuts…I wouldn’t count on them ordering more F-35’s than what we’re already supposed to be getting. And just for the record they wont cut numbers of the Typhoon because of obvious reasons, i.e. severe penalties.

    Quite right about Spain having to replace their F-1’s and F/A-18’s, but it doesn’t mean they have to replace them with F-35’s. Hell they might even replace them with Rafale’s, Gripen’s or even order more Typhoon’s…Why not? But if they want to buy an aircraft that they will “never really own”, i.e. F-35, then thats their choice. 😀

    BTW, has there been anymore news about Oman might be buying Typhoon’s, anyone?

    in reply to: YF-23 pics. #2488409
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    Jurassic park is the reason why a basketball team and a 5th generation aircraft received the name Raptor.

    Yep. I was going to mention that in an reply to another post on this thread, but no need now. Remember seeing some programme on the discovery channel about aircraft & they mentioned it, can’t remember what the guy did or who he worked for, I think it was LM and I think he worked on the development of it? Not sure….But he said he’ll refuse to call it the Raptor. who cares it’s only a name…

    in reply to: Predict the winners! #2488415
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    With the exception of Germany. I wouldn’t be suprised to see other Eurofighter Partners Nations with more Lightnings than Typhoons!;)

    Don’t count on it…

    in reply to: YF-23 pics. #2488501
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    If I had the choice between this and the F-22, (I refuse to call it the “Raptor”, stupid frikin name, named after a dinosaur, stupid things they were, ruled the earth for 150+ million years & couldn’t invent an I-pod) I would go with this everytime rather than the banana shaped (If you look at it from the side) F-22. (That’s if I was a yank & had a say in such things, and since I’m not (Thank god) then it doesn’t matter so it’s made my comments a waste of time) 😀

    IMO I think the F-23 would’ve had more (and possibly better) growth potential than the F-22. But saying it’s a pretty looking thing, well thats like saying your own mum is sexually attractive. (It’s not exactly a Spitfire or an Lightning, the REAL one, (EE Lightning) not the JSF type with it’s mothers hair-dryer stuffed into it’s back….Also, refuse to call that the Lightning).

    Does anyone think it would’ve been better to drop the JSF programme and continue with the F-23 programme?…

    in reply to: Is the Typhoon a waste of time? #2488647
    EELightning
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    The likes of Storm shadow and other standoff munitions are all well and good for fixed targets, for a tank battalion, less good to useless. No good relying on stand off systems if you have to gain air superiority over hostile airspace to protect your own ground forces either.

    Why would you want to use Storm Shadow on an tank battalion? If you want to take out a bunch of tanks, you use the Brimstone anti armour missile(s), which of course Typhoon will be able to carry. (While carrying six AAM’s, so theres the swing-role capability) And if you want to gain air superiority, Typhoon will be capable of doing so.

    Really, PLEASE! Do some research on Typhoon, what, 25, 30 minutes flicking through some pages on eurofighter.com should give you some idea.

    in reply to: Is the Typhoon a waste of time? #2488828
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    Hold up, we have one group of people saying it was never meant to operate over hostile airspace with S-300 and 400s yet now its changed to be a multirole strike fighter. I’m curious, do you have to wait for the enemy armour to move onto British land before the Typhoon can attack it because thats whats implied by many who say it will not and was not meant to operate over hostile airspace. Unless of course you’re planning to bomb yourself it sounds pretty much useless for A-G if it cannot fight its way to where the ground targets and if theres any sort of decent air defenses there in hostile lands its stuffed. Sounds great! :rolleyes:

    Why would you want to operate over hostile airspace when you could operate outside it with standoff weapons? Storm Shadow, Taurus etc I say, why let an aircraft, and most importantly, the pilot take the risk of getting his ar$e shot to bits when you can let the missile take the risk. Again, like I said before, do a little research before you knock it. :rolleyes:

    in reply to: Is the Typhoon a waste of time? #2488881
    EELightning
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    BINGO! You win the prize. That is exactly why Typhoon is useless. It is pretty much a pure air superiority fighter . That mission has very much decreased in importance over the last 20 years. What these smaller air forces really need is a jack of all trades fighter that cen do everything well. Sure Typhoon will perform well against today’s A2A threats, but how does it do in 20 years? Can it really perform CAS well? Does it do interdiction well? Can it self escort…etc. Maybe it will be able to do some of these things reasonably well but at what cost for the upgrades? They already cost well over $100 million each and that is without an AESA.

    Jesus! Ignorant or what! Instead of saying stuff like that, why don’t you do a little research about Typhoon, it’s easy, google it, check out the official website. look it up!

    :rolleyes:

    in reply to: Is the Typhoon a waste of time? #2491872
    EELightning
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    Waste of time? Nope!

    “it will never be a true multi role aircraft like the F-35 or Super Hornet”

    Who said?

    Can a F-35 or Super Hornet carry six GPS/Laser Guided Bombs, six AAM’s and a centre line fuel tank on a mission? Or even four Laser Guided Bombs, two drop tanks, six AAM’s, LDP on the centre line hard point for that matter?…Look it up, it can.

    It seems to me that this is just a giant jobs program for the UK and Europe

    Whats wrong with making jobs out of something like this? Nothing wrong with supporting your own industry.

    It’s a fine aeroplane, never heard any pilots or airforces complain about it or it’s future. Pretty much says it all really doesn’t it.

    in reply to: looking for photo's of nose art,tiger colour scheme's. #2493131
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    in reply to: Is the F35 a waste of time? #2493211
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    Some of these threads would be interesting if they weren’t b*tchy…:rolleyes:

    in reply to: looking for photo's of nose art,tiger colour scheme's. #2493492
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    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon news II #2494612
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    Tranche 2 Deliveries

    14 January 2009 – Tranche 2 Deliveries
    Whilst 2008 saw the start of Tranche 2 deliveries to nations – 16 aircraft delivered in total -, 2009 started with GS032 (Germany) delivered on Monday the 12th January and BS043 (UK) handed over today.

    Just to summarize, the first aircraft delivered to the nations were:
    BS040 (UK) on 10 October 2008 followed by SS012 (Spain) on 24 October and IS020 (Italy) on 13 November. The first Tranche 2 aircraft for the German Air Force was AS008, handed over on 18 December 2008. With revision of the Austrian contract, nine Tranche 2 aircraft originally planned for Austria will go to Germany and keep their designation, as the German aircraft in service with the Austrian armed forces.
    At this point we think a brief explanation is appropriate, what delivery or handover for us on the industrial side in the Eurofighter consortium really means. After a thorough and detailed check procedure for each individual aircraft a special form is signed by the partner company delivering the aircraft and the air force taking it. With this signature the air force takes ownership of the aircraft. This for us means handover or delivery.
    There can be discrepancies in dates, when an air force sets up a handover/delivery event or flies the aircraft out of the industrial facility at a later time and these dates then are being communicated or looked at as the actual handover dates.
    Nevertheless, we at PR & Comms in Eurofighter and the Partner Companies actually do rather care about the fact as such: Another aircraft delivered!!! So have a good new year 2009 and let’s continue counting…

    http://www.eurofighter.com/po_bl.asp?id=110

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon news II #2494624
    EELightning
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    Forget the 1500 l tanks they were rejected many years ago, as they didn’t suit the requirements. These tanks were that from the Tornado and they are way to much performance limited to be sufficiently used by the Typhoon. 1000 l tanks are the only ones cleared for operational use. 2000 l wing tanks similar to that of the Rafale are under consideration for future integration, however.

    I see, I don’t remember anything like that…Do you have any more details or sources about that, and about the 2000lt tank(s) under consideration, please? (Don’t take it the wrong way, not saying it’s not true or anything)

    I found this: (Old news I know) http://www.eurofighter.com/news/article10.asp it says that it had flown “with subsonic 1500 litre tanks” and “The 1500 litre tank is the largest that the aircraft will carry”So, was that one of the reasons the 1500lt tanks were rejected, cause they were “Subsonic” tanks?

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon news II #2495620
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    So, it could take 4 Amraams, 1 ldp, 6 sraams and 4 lgbs? Replacing two lgbs on that pic with two dual sraams?

    Yeah, if they feel the need to do so. Or, for example, 4 AMRAAM’s/METEOR’s, 1 LDP, (Centre line) 2 LGB’s, 2 1500lt or 1000lt Drop tanks, 6 ASRAAM’s/IRS-T’s.

    But personally, (If I was a pilot) for an air to air weapons load, I’d rather have, 8 AMRAAM’s/METEOR’s, 2 ASRAAM’s/IRS-T’s, and two 1500lt or 1000lt drop tanks, maybe even 3 drop tanks, 1 1500lt tank on each wing, and a 1000lt on the centre point. Having 2 Typhoons like that on CAP…You wouldn’t want to try take them on, especially if they’re armed with METEOR’s. That’d be a BIG NO-NO in my book.

    For Typhoon to carry such weapon loads the way it can, is quite bl**dy great!

    in reply to: Predict the winners! #2495654
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    Japan should go for either the JSF or Eurofighter. After all they will be facing Chinese fourth gen aircraft in case of war. 🙂

    What about if they go for both types? If they can afford them both, and JSF is something they could need, then why not. But I’m not too sure if JSF is something they want, a single engined aeroplane I mean.

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