No, you won’t see… because they are VLO 😎
Oi, Dark Lord of the Sith – Darth Spud! Stop winding the kids up!… You know dark objects (F-35) get their come-uppings! :dev2:
*Stirring!*
😀
Lockheed U-2.
not only does it participates in wars, it nearly starts them too
Politicians and the top brass nearly start, or do start, wars. The aircraft are mere tools.
I also dream I only have a 6 inch willy, but luckily when I wake up I realise I was dreaming in 1/2 scale 😉
1/2 scale = 12″. Every guy knows that is real Man-measurements. 😀
I also dream I only have a 6 inch willy, but luckily when I wake up I realise I was dreaming in 1/2 scale 😉
1/2 scale = 12″. Every guy knows that is real Man-measurements. 😀
To explain why further upgrades of Yak-38 or development of Yak-141 did not enjoy as high priority in USSR as Harriers did in the UK.
Your implication that Yak-141 must have been technically unsound or inferior to Harriers bcs it was cancelled and Harriers were not is wishful thinking, politely said.
Fair enough. I just believe that it is rather bold for someone to claim the Yak-41 was superior, or would have “blown the Brits out of the water”, since the aircraft was built in a very small number, was still in it’s testing and development stages and of course never got introduced into operational service – that’s a bold claim by any standards. Around the time of the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Harrier was far from being the most capable variants, in UK service at least, and even they didn’t come until the introductions of the FA2 and GR9A years later.
Actually if you count losses of colonies and prior importance of Indian colonies, then Britain has lost a huge chunk of it’s territory and population since WWII. 😀
Stop being Thesicious, that’s a complicated thing for some people to grasp, especially to those who can’t tell the difference between an Englishman and an American Composer. :dev2:
My girlfriend and I worked until quite late on Saturday evening, finished more or less the same time (separate jobs), and met up to go for some Sushi and a nice “quiet drink” afterwards, just to chill after a long day working. Both of us got completely ‘Bungalowed’ (p*ssed as pillocks), decided to go to the Cinema to see The Man of Steel, don’t remember a thing about that, somehow ended up home… no idea how we got from the Cinema… somehow, I suddenly discovered that my foot had a Snare Drum attached to it, no idea how that happened, (girlfriend’s Snare Drum… wasn’t a happy bunny), she then decided to think it was a very good idea to juggle with one of my Guitars, specifically my Gibson Les Paul Custom ‘Black Beauty’, somehow it ended up sliding across the Kitchen floor with one of her Converse All Star shoes tied to it… Once again, no idea how that happened…. then all of a sudden were in a heavy discussion about how overly-dramatic the new Carte D’or advert is… Not sure why… as well as wondering why on earth we had four 14″ Pizzas delivered at 2am in the morning…
Very odd. That felt like a dream but wasn’t.
My girlfriend and I worked until quite late on Saturday evening, finished more or less the same time (separate jobs), and met up to go for some Sushi and a nice “quiet drink” afterwards, just to chill after a long day working. Both of us got completely ‘Bungalowed’ (p*ssed as pillocks), decided to go to the Cinema to see The Man of Steel, don’t remember a thing about that, somehow ended up home… no idea how we got from the Cinema… somehow, I suddenly discovered that my foot had a Snare Drum attached to it, no idea how that happened, (girlfriend’s Snare Drum… wasn’t a happy bunny), she then decided to think it was a very good idea to juggle with one of my Guitars, specifically my Gibson Les Paul Custom ‘Black Beauty’, somehow it ended up sliding across the Kitchen floor with one of her Converse All Star shoes tied to it… Once again, no idea how that happened…. then all of a sudden were in a heavy discussion about how overly-dramatic the new Carte D’or advert is… Not sure why… as well as wondering why on earth we had four 14″ Pizzas delivered at 2am in the morning…
Very odd. That felt like a dream but wasn’t.
You forget that SU had the much more promising conventional option of Kuznetsow plus Varyag and Ulyanovsk in the making, something that British have completely lacked at that time..
Technically, the Yak-141 was a great success but not only budget cuts, but even MiG-29K, Su-33 and Su-25UTG alone gave it much less priority.
Indeed, I’m not disputing that… though forgive me, I’m not sure why Kuznetsov, Ulyanovsk and the Varyag Carriers are brought up?…
Y-20Bacon,
lol, so the UK also lost 76% of its territory, half its population, half its gdp, and a good chunk of its defense industry?
okay…
Remind me; where did I state the UK had lost the exact same as the Soviet Union? I stated the UK suffered budget cuts, I didn’t state they suffered the exact same figures. The British Government aren’t that incompetent.
I have always thought this plane would be a Bomb Truck. Clearly they haven’t made a huge missile yet. But IMHO the bottom bays are for bombs and the side bays are for missiles. Think J-20 will have the 1st task as a Ground Attack plane with secondary air to air tasks. Looks too big to be a fighter. More like a bigger, longer bomb truck. But althought it’s tasks are Multi mission role tasks.
The dimensions of the J-20 are very similar to those of the YF-23, they’re actually remarkably close, well within a couple of feet in height, length and width. The differences between wing areas of the aeroplanes aren’t that significant, same for weight. The point is, during the trials of the YF-23, the aircraft showed very promising performance results that were on par or even exceeded the YF-22. It was, and would have been, an incredibly capable aeroplane, there’s no doubt about it! Unlike the YF-23, the J-20 will be an incredibly capable aeroplane be it in A/A or A/G. The size of it’s airframe isn’t an issue.
If it looks right, it’ll most certainly fly right. And one must say, it looks stunningly menacing! I’d be rather nervous if I had to face it, even if I was in an ASRAAM & Meteor armed Typhoon!
calm down paul weston. if you feel phantoms points are valid then all your points are already invalid.
phantom clearly mentions the skills of yakovlev and the superiority of their latest vstol aircraft over the british who decided to go for imcremental improvements than a new design. the only thing that held yakovlev from blasting the brits out of the water were the economy..something which you feel is irrelevant lol.
I said, ‘he has very valid points’, not ‘every’ one are. There is a difference. The “Superiority” you speak of is at best minimum, top speed of the Yak-41 being higher than the Harrier variants, other than that other areas are largely debatable – most are inconclusive since the Yak-41 never seen operational service as frontline, final product, aircraft. That’s before we mention avionics, weapons systems and capabilities.
Both countries suffered cuts during the ’80s and even more so come the collapse of the Soviet Union, yet still, the Harrier soldiered on, the Yak-41 got canned. Irrelevant?… Hardly.
Very nice images, Scorpion82. Much appreciated. I do admire the artwork the Luftwaffe have on their aircraft. I hope one day we’ll see a Typhoon with the colours from a WWII Luftwaffe BF-109.
RAF Typhoon in Qatar, performing trials it seems:
http://spotters.net.ua/file/?id=80117&size=large
Copyright: Eduard Onyshchenko.
TVC in a actual fight= The one with thrust Vectoring is dead.
Absolute bollox!!!
TVC isn’t just used for manoeuvrability. It’s used for trimming drag, decreasing take-off and landing distances and increasing the weight carriage of weapons and fuel to name a few!
…but can we please stop this Rafale vs F-22 contest
Then posts this a few hours later:
High resolution video of the Rafale vs F-22 dogfight
Priceless…
EElightning, you should read this. an opinion from a non pro-UK bias source
I did read it and PhantomII has very valid points. The way I see it, they’re not his opinion, they’re actually factual just as mine are and they’re both totally different to yours. Funny how you failed to counter my posts.
By the way, just for record, the Harrier II is a totally different beast to the original design of the Harrier.
Just because I’m British doesn’t mean I’m a Pro-UK biased source. Got a problem with that, then that’s your issue.