With the cars and building in the pics, you get a REALLY good idea of the true size of the Dream.
Since when did the Tu-22M3 become a strategic bomber?
I am simply quoting Kopp, Garry. He is the one calling it strategic. One wonders….. :rolleyes:
Leaving aside his political opinions and bias, I do think he provides a good technical analysis for various aircraft and weapons systems.
I am not disputing his technical info. In fact he deos have some good photos in this article. I too, however, did not buy the mag, and haven’t for a while now.
The 737-700 based platform will come out ahead endurance wise, not to mention politically, as they have just chosen the F-15K.
Thanks Sean. Gordon’s book is a good one IMO. Along with his companion volume of the Su-27. 🙂
I personally think they should just buy more F-16s, give them the MLU upgrade and like Chile get Israeli weapons integrated with them like Derby, Python 5 and of course the latest Gabriel AshM(though not as good as Yakhont-M, still very good and Thailand has already done this when they bought the L-39ZAs with Israeli weapons and avionics). If anything, I’d rather buy some S-300PMU2s or invest in S-400(these SAMs should be very cheap solutions and easy to integrate in Western oriented militaries), if F-16MLUs are not good to counter those hordes of Flankers in South Asia.
The Flanker is a good plane, but it will be costly integrating another aircraft type in the Thai AF, which traditionally uses Western types, at least SAMs will not be hard to integrate with it’s AD or Army.
I think F-16MLU with Derby and Python 5 + S-300PMU2/S-400 will be enough to counter those Flankers and will be very cost effective.
Also, maybe in order to support those F-16MLUs, some sort of AWACS could be bought, maybe the Phalcon, or the Hawkeye or hell even the cheap Erieye are options.
Srbin,
Force logic aside, there has to be a good reason why they would consider Su-30MKs now. Think endurance, think long range maritime strike, think long range interdition. The warmed over F-16A/B/C/D is not in the same class.
Probably less than 6 months. Meats get the distinctive “freezer flavor” after a few months in storage.
I think it would be a better deal if the Thais bartered for a few An-225s and then use them to airlift the frozen chicken out of the country quicker before they spoil.
If they airdropped the chicken in the middle of a Russian winter, there wouldn’t be any need for refrigeration.
GD – :p :p
Exactly! That’s what I said earlier- it’s not the Saratoga. 🙂
I know, I was just been a picky little weasel! 😉
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/meko/
good ships. but they need a big radar to be more effective.
Why? They are only fitted with point defence missiles for air defence.
Yep several stories like this at CDG.
Some areas of the Terminal are considered as “International territory” as are the “International Waters”. Pretty weird !
That’s what intrigues me. The so called ‘International zones’. What laws are present there?
If Thailand gets the chicken deal, the Chinese Sukhoi customer should be pi$$ed. China had to barter textiles like good silk shirts and ties for the Su-27SK (as will as 50-60% hard currency.)
Thailand is gonna get the plane by trading for it with a perishable like frozen chicken. The Thais are good businessmen 😀
The recent Indonesian FLANKER deal was also largely settled with the barter of commodities. Nobody got angry with that. I believe frozen chicken can be good for up to 6 months or perhaps more, or is that fish? I am not sure.
When I am in Japan next, I will have to drop in. Never been to Nagoya, so will have to make a stop on the way. Cheers Transall.
Except that Moskit was designed in the late 70s and its successor, the Yakhont has land attack versions being tested shortly… why do you think a mach 3 missile needs stealth?
Equally Indonesia has a history of buying bombers from Russia… how about 4 Tu-22M3s with four Yakhonts on the standard wing pylons and maybe a further 6 Kh-15 Kickbacks in the internal bay. Quite a potent anti ship and anti surface weapon load on a platform that could have inflight refuelling reinstalled if sold to Indonesia (START and SALT doesn’t apply to Indonesia).
Come on Garry, you are getting as bad as Kopp! :p
Have these 2 pics of Merlins with different radars on thier fuselage. Which one is the AEW version?
The second one. The first is PP5, one of the prototypes. The Italian Navy one is the AEW version, with the APS-784 radar in a larger radome.

Ok, I see. 🙂
The article clearly says ‘fighter jets’. Maybe they are looking to Su-30MKs in response to the Malaysian deal, and the Vietnamese plans. Not to mention they could be looking to Su-30MK to bolster their martime strike capability. Could take them a LOT longer to get Harpoon and something from the US to carry and fire it. :p