bulldog cockpit Mk II
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Mike,
I did some digging in my reference material and ran across AP 1275. It shows the Mk IIA as an “A, B, C” model. (6A/448, and 350 luminated, -4 to +4; 6A/449, 441 lum. 0 to 8lbs; 6A/487, 486 lum. -4 to +8. respectively) I have a dimension of 3.45 on the line drawing, but no reference from whence it came. Rats. Also I found a copy I made of a chart from FLIGHT magazine from about 1943 that shows -4 lbs to equate to 21.8″ (on US aircraft), and +4 lbs to equate to 38.1 “. Thus the third one and the second one would be perfect. Are they yours? Putting in the 2 1/2” size would just be wrong. trying to upload a photo of the Bulldog cockpit, but failing
Ed
Thank you “one eighth bit” and Mike. The picture that Mike put up shows the “Bristol” boost gauge in the lower left, i.e. it is not located on the panel itself. The Bristol gauge seem to be a bit larger than the standard 3 1/2″ gauge. I am using an approved modification in that I am using the newer style airspeed gauge, which it so happens is 3 1/2″ dia. So it makes sense that there would be a small and large size instrument. By the way, the other gauges on the panel are in the 5″ range which the RAF standard was replacing.
The question is….which of the boost gauges on ebay etc. are of the 3 1/2″ size? Most boost gauges shrunk to the 2 1/2″ size. Next, as I am having to use a Wasp 1340, the max boost would be about 36″ which should equate to the 17lbs in the boost vernacular. So I would guess that something in the 22- 24″ range max on dial would give the proper amount of instrument read out. Any guess as to the size of a Mk III? or any help at all.
Thanks guys.
Cheers
Ed
Ed2,
That is AMAZING !!!! The last photo is fantastic. Everything you need to make one on the lathe. Thank you so very very very much!
Not to seem ungrateful in nay manner , does anyone know the height of the mast on the wing? I have already fabricated sockets that will be attached to the wing. all I can add is that the mast is steel, and round.
Thanks again for the time you spent on the photos and the drawing. (That dimensioned photo should become the “standard” method of such information.)
Ed1
Beachcomber,
Mike, I would like to thank you from the numerous restoration, rebuilders, and interested parties from now and the future. It is a NOBLE thing that you do.
Ed 1
Beachcomber,
Please, please, please, do NOT throw those papers away.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! One of the biggest problems that has begun to rear it’s ugly head is the lack of information and maintenance procedures of older aeroplanes. The old (i.e. knowledgeable) guys are dying off. One example being; Ryan PT22 curved half tube on fuselage. Only thru an accident was one of the Ryan club members able to find out how the piece was made. An old Ryan worker at an airshow was able to divulge the needed info. Modern technology could not supply the answer. Another example; the Bristol Bulldog has NO information on maintenance of the Bulldog. (beyond the check to make sure wing are attached). These papers are needed.
(PowerandPassion—get in on this discussion!!!)
The only real problem I see is where to locate these papers.
Mike, please please please do NOT throw them out.
Cheers,
Ed
Ed2,
I will cheat on this subject, as I have in front of me a drawing showing the braking system as mechanical. I also have pictures (thanks Bret) showing an “arm” on the backside of the brake assembly. So far I have not found the callout for the Dunlop No. of the brake assay. at the wheel. The brake is an ‘after market’ item, and was stabilized (read- anti rotating) by “a” rod from the rear spar. Then some ‘erk’ pushed the aeroplane backwards (with brake set) and the discovery of the needed second anti rotating rod was established.
Chris B, I have that same vague thought. My thoughts at this time would be that the brakes are for approaching the fuel pumps.
Ed2: Do not eat (sugar) powdered donuts, as back snorting could result in the unwanted interest of the drug police.
Cheers,
Ed1
THANK YOU !, Dave and Radardesk. There may be but a very few who will need this post, but the gist of the dissemination of such obscure knowledge is what we are all about. (If only more aficionados would give up time to do such)
Once again, thank you gentlemen.
Cheers.
Ed
Ed2,
You, Sir, are a force of your own! That being said, keep up the good work. No telling where and what will be divulged. I do , however, have a question-not to steal from this thread- but… how did Capt Audy nose over the Bulldog? (I have a vested interest in the answer)
Cheers,
Ed1
Ed 2
OUTSTANDING!! Good on ya mate.
Ed 1
Gentlemen, please be nice to these “cub reporters”. They have worked hard to attain the level of Superman’s friend Jimmy Olsen. Being a “copyboy” is hard work! After watching “Airplane” they had to watch “Airplane II” as well to achieve this level of expertise. Remember, if being a reporter was easy…..wait! being a reporter IS easy, being intelligent is not.
Ed
Mr. Snibbles. Please do some homework before blurting out. The Flycatcher”s Wasp Jr. (R-985) does not look anywhere close to a Bristol Jupiter which was never in this aeroplane anyway. Try on a Jaguar.
And as far as the complaints about “it isn’t really a…….”: how is your replica ‘what ever’ coming along? Try building any of these beasts. Try researching any of these beasts.
Hats off to anyone with the perseverance to tackle any four-plus-plus year project.
Ed
no one told me there would be this many parts. WHAT!?!?! there’s more?!?!?!
Well done Wl745. Keep an eye out for Bristol Bulldog parts. I shall hold my breath.
I am, however, seriously looking for a Potts (Vickers-Potts) oil cooler or parts. And Mk I or II navigation lights. Obviously they will attach to a Bulldog. Thanks and Cheers
Ed
The Skysport Bulldog group made a rolling machine and rolled out pieces for the rear fuselage which for some strange reason dissapeared. Two different tubes were made. A 180^ and a 270/90^ tube. The early Bulldog tubes (as well as spar) were riveted together (on the longitudinal flange) and later had the edge folded over with the occasional rivet at a junction. In the case of the fuselage ‘tubes’, they were not round shaped, but ever so slightly egg shaped. Very smart. Very strong for that little bit of extra forming. The metal used in the rebuild was not the original call out. In the immortal words of Tim, ‘not even God has enough money to make this thing fly’. Thus the original premise was to make a flying machine, but money got in the way. I do understand that Guy Black’s group has made original steel (from Switzerland) for his Hawker series. We are talking mill run. Normal man translation: if you ask, you can not afford.
The U.S. Navy did a lot of testing with the material used in the Bulldog, and was not terribly impressed. This could very easily have been “not made here” syndrome. Interesting comment about not being able to use 4130 today. This leads to the question of what size (and weight penalty) would you use today, and if you had period steel, would anyone pay the extra million quid for that satisfaction under the fabric and paint. Which is more important seeing the machine fly or know that it is 100% original? Knowing the acceptable substitute for todays rebuilds IS worth knowing, so yes Ed2, you are doing us a great service. Keep up the good work.
Ed1
Bob T.
The two following items are needed: #14186 and 14189. They are parts of the fuel tank where the fuel quantity indicator attaches, and the valve fitting where the fuel leaves the tank.
Thanks!!!!!!
Ed