Brown Brothers LTD
Bruce…..thank you so so much for the download. I have been finding bits and pieces over the years to help with the B.B.C. information. One question; what year is this catalogue???? And I am now on my knees, do you have a 1930 ish catalogue? This is a much needed source of reference and very very rare. Thanks again.
Ed Storo (still beating on aluminum panels)
Bulldog manuals
Thanks for the help. You are correct in that Vol III is the parts manual. Turns out I have a photo copy of one, without the cover page but was able to establish it as Vol III.
So that leaves Vol IV as the pilot notes???????? Still working…….
Ed
Bulldog AP manuals
For those of you who may want to know, here is the result of latest research. (Please-please provide updates and corrections).
The AP manual 1393 (both with an ‘A’ or not, not sure of reason) Vol 1.
Is ‘THE’ AP manual as we know it, contains some pictures and a brief discription of the various parts, tail, landing gear, engine etc.
Vol. 2 : Contains “General Orders and Modification. (Part 1)
Maintenance Schedule (Part 2), and Instructions for Repairs (Part 3)
The most interesting part is Modifications. Ex: Airspeed Indicator- Re-postioned. Will give a brief overall description w/ reference to drawings and somtimes a step by step proceedure, along with needed parts. Lots of good info.
I have never seen any of these dwg’s, but would think they would be the most easily found in old paper work etc.
Is there a Vol 3 ? Is it the pilot notes? (The placard at Hendon makes reference to “Pilot notes”) The above mentioned Maint. Schedule takes you on a preflight walk around (Inspection Every 10 Hours, Fuel System, check for leaks, etc etc etc, tid bits of info.
I unfortunetly bought an original from a bloke in Oz. Two days later be put the CD version on Ebay at 1/10 the cost. Not my idea of cricket. But glad to have any information.
Update: working on finishing rudder and fin for cover. Can not find reference for tail lamp AG number. And working on sheet metal sides.
Bulldog data
Thanks everyone for the time to help. I will try the Dannish thread (tusen takk) and the Finnish. I have the lentokone Bulldog IV/A ja tahan lentokonetyppiin kuuluvia lukuarvoja. It is mainly technical data on stress and strain etc. I have a number of Finnish dictionaries. Would you know if they have a pilots manual??? (snakker bara norsk)
The Smitsonian has some info from the two machines they bought, but they are still compiling their stash. They could not truly tell me what they had, but I did purchase a few documents, but was not able to put togehter a true weight and balance. Bos. Downs sound interesting Any idea how to get a hold of them?
Will try to put another pix on site soon.
Ed
Bristol Jupiter-1340
Interesting note of history. The P&W 1340 is almost the same size. It was very important to keep the diameter close so the heads would stick out and look right. Wt. is very close. Very very loosly…the 1340 is the American answer to the Jupiter. The Jupiter being the first (if not one of) engine that you only had to add oil and fuel and not tear down every 100 hours.
Bulldog pix
Unfortunetly I am using a P&W 1340. At least it is a snap cap, so will not have the oil lines between cylinders. Hopefully it will be able to hide the ‘mickey mouse’ ears with a fake valve cover (I need a dwg or copy to work with). At least it will be in the air. And if I stay far enough away from yous guys, you won’t be able to tell which engine is mounted. Date????? Next week. Actually, no clue. I wish it was last week.
Ed
Yes, I am located in Netarts, OR near Tillamook. As soon as I figure out how to attach a pix, I will do so.
I have most of the known information that the Smithsonian has. Most of it is flight testing as opposed to how to fly. But little tid bits here and there. The gentlrman I talked to was excited that I had info from the Finns.
Thanks for the suggestion. I have both the Mk II and the Mk IIa AP manuals. I am a little disapointed in them compared to the Brisfit that had more dimensions and numbers. Another queston tha arises is: what did the engineers do to fix the aircraft outside of take it off-look at it- and fix or put a new piece on. The AP manual really is not a good maintenance manual in this case. I am starting to belive that much of everything in this time period was very much off the cuff.
I will try to figure out how to include pictures. Just finishing up sheet metal work around the cockpit. Ed
Bulldog airspeeds
Thank you both for the information. I do have the Luff book, (and even had a chat with David before he passed away). He unfortunetly does not give the source, it had to come from some where. Where??? There are a small number of mistakes in his book, but that is why we do what we do. The more conversation, the more wisdom. (sucky english).
I also have the Crawford book. What I would like to know is when…..did the RAF start the pilot notes series. We had the same problem with the Brisfit with speed and W&B. But the given speeds will be duly noted.
By the way, we lost a lot of information with Davids passing. Very sorry.
Ed
Bristol Fighter info
I built the Brisfit that went to N.Z., it is down at this time for an engine rebuild. Seems that Rangers eat oil and sip gas. The museum has one replica, one being built by Stu Tantrum (original parts), and one real one from England.
About the 6 Brisfits in Chino area. Only a couple were ever finished to flying staus. They were to be used in the High Road To China, but the insurance companies said ‘no way’ to experimental aircraft. They were to have the actors in the front seat, and the real pilot in the rear, with the side panel removed, and a windshield put on, to fly looking out the side. (Obviously there is a stick in the back seat.) Thus a close up of non-flying types pretending to be real pilots could be made. Portions of these Brisfits were being built by high school students in the Chicago area (under supervision).
Roger Freeman is building the two in Texas.