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Butowski. so it should be taken with a giant heap of salt.
Hey, guys whatever happened to ?
pilot.strizhi.info
Used to be a great archive for variety Soviet arms projects including obviously planes.
The “sketch” was Pyotr Butowski´s interpretation of how Mig 721 would look like. 721 was one of Mig designs that lost to the Sukhoi T50. Almost certainly wont have nothing to do with whatever Mig and the UAE are looking at.
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It’s MiG and not Mig and you mean E-127
It is mind-breaking to suggest that the replacement for Granit, by which requiring a replacement due to Granit range no longer being optimal, possesses a shorter range than its predecessor.
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Oniks was never a replacement for Granit. Oniks was designed for smaller ships to fill the gap between then Granit (And it’s successor Bolid ) and Vulcan (And it’s upgrade Vulcan LK ) and Moskit.
At the same time a Moskit successor was in the works by both NPO Novator and NPO Mashinostroyeniya under the Alfa program. NPO Novator came out as a winner with their offering 3M54 Alfa and 3M14 Biryuza missiles (also labeled as ASM-MS and AFM-L) over NPO Mash offering 3M51 Alfa also labeled as ( ASM-MMS)
And yes (Sub launched ) Oniks is a 500 km hi-lo missile. Land based Oniks are limited due to treaty seeing as they are capable of being fully land attack capable. Unlike previous AShM’s which could only engage coastal targets.
Not that it matters. Russia doesn’t have the recon and tracking assets to exploit missiles with ranges over 375 km
so to allow them to make use of certain operative modes that were considered an exclusive of just the latter ones.
And which might those be ? I was under impression PESA(non hybrid) could do everything that AESA does.
Ok got some details from russiandefence
So from offical specs we can conclude
Lo-Lo Range 180 km
Hi-Lo Range 350 km
Hi-Hi Range 450 kmWarhead should be 200-300 kg as Indian Brahmos , I suspect it can do atleast 500-600 km range in hi-hi trajectory but limited by INF treaty
Yep, basicly they didn’t fully fuel them up to keep the Hi-hi range to 450 km which also limits it’s Hi-Lo and Lo-Lo range.
By now Onyx range can be calculated based on information available.
Hi-Hi – 600 km ( flying at 18 km )
Hi-Lo – 350 km
Lo-Lo – 150 km
That contradicts the info available. Again we have the official word of Lo-Lo range and that is no more then 340 km. As far as upgrading Onyx it’ll probably have the same upgrades as Uran and kalibr.
Bastion System Range was reveled by Shoigu in briefing to Putin
http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/3785071
In addition, there also put coastal complexes” Bastion ” who have closed almost all the coast and today these complexes, we are able to destroy both sea and ground targets “, – the minister said, adding that it was a distance of 350 kilometers in the sea and nearly 450 kilometers on land.
450 km for land targets is probably limited by INF Treaty. The 350 km for sea targets is probably for Lo-Lo altitude for Onyx.
As was mentioned previously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clWZCNaZpeE
at low altitude the range was no less then 340 km quoted by official at 0:45 on.
Then there was this
https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20140319/1000160934.html
Onyx was also mentioned to have a range of 500 km as sub launched variant. ( Which I previously though and told you was likely Hi-Lo trajectory. )
And now we have more evidence that’s the case
P. Sengupta mentions this
The BrahMos-1 has a range of 550km if all its fuel tanks are filled up. But now all those that have already been produced have a range of only 290km, meaning half their fuel tanks are left empty. Once they go for relifing 10 years after their service-entry, these fuel tanks will be filled up & then all of them will have 550km-range.
Now P. Sengupta isn’t the greatest source but it kinda make sense.
Further more
As you see Onyx been also mentioned being capable of more then 600 km range (No doubt Hi-Hi)
The two stage, no sustainer layout of Pantsir-S1s rounds however are perfect for anti-PMG/ARM, rapid close in defense type jobs. By design they “run out of steam” fairly rapidly towards the end of their engagement envelope.
Such a huge range increase, and the same rough propulsion layout are difficult things to combine. Not terribly sure why Pantsir really needs such a range increase anyways.
The 23Ya6 missile that went in service with Domestic pantsirs has a max rang of 35 km. http://vpk-news.ru/news/20071
The Pantsir-SM missiles supposed to have a range of 40 km and ability engage hyper-sonic targets …so there has to be some increase in size for them. Unless KPB Tula practices witchcraft.
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That’s the placard for then planned Zhuk-AE (Still using Zhuk-MA as demo) with 1064 T/R modules. That later got split into to two different weight class radars. The FGA-29 features a 575 mm antenna and 680 T/R modules and FGA-35 with 688mm antenna and 1016 T/R modules.
Placard
That placard is the for the Zhuk-MA
Project 20380 wasn’t top heavy. What it does have is structural problems. Endurance was a problem too ..mainly because there was no proper kitchen and engines being anemic.
It was a non the less decent ship. That got upsclled into something that it was not meant to be project 20381 and 20385.
All, Russian Dedicated AShM had capability to attack coastal targets. Why the hell is this even a surprise.
General director of Avangard plant (Kozhin) said a number of years ago the 48N6 had a potential of up to 320km.
48N6 been tested further then that though with a lofty ballistic trajectory and a modified guidance/ engagement radar that recaptured the missile in”terminal phase” that extended the range at least close to 400 km mark back in the 80’s. Also there has been talk of active/passive radar 48N6. But I do not think that will come to be in service
The 40N6 is the 48N6 replacement they’ll sort the guidance issued out with it eventually.
9M82 does seem to be ahead of 40N6 in achieving range, but then again it is a giant missile. Only 2 per launcher.
48N6DM is more than good enough for now anyways, 40N6 is not a critical piece of S-400.
Because the 9М82МV and 9M83MV were derived from then cancelled by Almaz shortly after the merged S-300VMD. The V4 and Antey 2500 upgrade …the Antey 3500 are all derived from VMD.
Almaz equally ****** Altair.
UGST was the Export version of Fizik-1 torpedo. But was introduced before it was really ready.