Our friend Khathi from MP.NET has mentioned that they did indeed tried to integrate surface to air missile(s) into UKSK launchers as an afterthought but ran into some snaggs.

I don’t recall the details of the problem(s) he mentioned but you should be able to find it.

Because making a subsonic missile longer range without some serious onboard guidance system is useless. By time the missile gets to its target. It’s possible for the target to be miles away where it’s supposed to have been.

Granted the ARGS-54 active/passive radar in the klubs have good range and Russian AShM klubs have mid-course updates from what I hear.

Likely though is that the solid rocket-powered last stage takes up alot of room sacrificing fuel tanks for the turbojet. Hence the significantly shorter range.

About bloody time. Also I can’t help but laugh at the 14000 ton destroyer malarkey. The Gorshkov are being barely financed from what I’ve read and it sure looks that way judging by the slow build pace. Even if they are planning to build them couple of years from now on with an improved economic situation how long will it take to build them and in what numbers ?

A beefed up Gorshkov class with longer endurances and a bigger arsenal like you suggested once TR would I think be a better idea, although not ideal for future proofing and as you as I recall stated wouldn’t offer much value over the 20350 frigates. But atleast they could be built faster and in numbers.

I just don’t get it why ? Why go for 14000 ton destroyer and a nuclear one at that at such a time frame ?

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But **** what do I know.

If a buttload of japanese surface combatant ships and vessels are heading for the kurils. I’d have a hard time believing they’d not position those SSK’s well over 100+ km from the coast.(assuming they aren’t already there patrolling and waiting just in case for such scenario to happen.) And in time of war even more so.

Nowhere did I mention anything about SSKs arresting damn fishermen goddammit.

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Also I must admit for whatever reason I always assumed that territorial waters extended much further then 22 km from the coast.

Бред.

Why ?

Kirov class size “destroyers” won’t happen. At best you can dream of baby kirov’s like the planned project 1293 and the project 1199 that would have shared the same hull as the 1293. Those would have had displacement between 13000 and 15000 tons.

Mitrofan is still in service (reserve) though it is interesting that the class was all but abandoned, and yet expensive foreign barges (Mistrals) are being bought.

Well, only two now

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/255034.html

I kinda saw that coming.