Excellent, looking at the planned numbers Caspian flotilla wont be a flotilla for much longer.

Only ten new diesel subs by 2020 is pathetic to be honest.

Yes, I think it will be 12 cells instead of the 8 on the Indian ships.

Certainly looks that way. Lack of Kashtan or Palash is perhaps because with additional UKSK cells and their missile’s the ship would be a tad too top heavy. Highly unlikely but besides cost there ain’t no other reason at least I can’t think of any other.

http://www.lenta.ru/news/2011/11/02/carrier/

Russian carrier project will be ready by 2017, first ship to be launched in 2023. Ship will be nuclear. Second vessel planned by 2027.

That’s still long time off. But somehow I don’t see this happening especially with looming world wide economic collapse.

Is their any Indication what kind of tonnage class this future carriers might be ?

Firstly… why do I not mention that India is engaged in a partnership with Russia to produce a “fifth generation” PAK-FA? Simple answer! The PAK-FA is not a fifth generation fighter, and will never be unless India funds every paisa of the Russian R&D that is needed to make it so. I happen to know a great deal about the PAK-FA programme. And you’ll have to wait to read about it, which I promise will happen soon.

That’s hilarious seeing as most of the funding came so far out of Russia’s own pocket.

I’m looking at those pics of 11356M with VLS shtil ..and correct me if i’m wrong but there are 32 cells ? No ? And eache cell is supposedly holding a missile of 400mm in diameter.

Now here we have Gorshkov with the redut AD.

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5378/10753863.jpg

Redut is supposed to house is 9M96 familly of missiles which are 240mm in diameter. Now how come then that Gorshkov has less cell’s for AD missiles then Grigorovich ? shouldn’t it have more and not less ? Gorshkov is also bit larger ship and the space for another UKSK doesn’t explaine it. You can easilly have 16 cell’s for AShM on Grigorovich by getting rid of RBU-6000 and using that space for it. Like it’s done on the Gorshkov.

Could it be Redut takes up more space on account that’s it’s housing 48N6 missiles ?

Edit

Nevermind, I forgot about the quad-packed 9M100. Which explaines everything.

I recall Igor Djadhan mentioning that VLS Shtil was tested and there were problems with it that got ironed out.

Anyway didn’t snake mention Admiral Grigorovich class was going to have VLS Shtil starting from the third hull ?

How does “attempted to obtain technological and maintenance documents on the S-300 anti-aircraft missile system from Russian citizens for money” equites to China trying to steal info on S-400 ?

It’s more like China still trying to make a on par S-300 copy.