A quick glance through and the fact that he mentioned Borei having 650mm tubes. And then seeing the “sources”. Makes me very scepticle of what’s written there.

Nobody is saying otherwise. The steam turbine part is what i’m wondering where he pulled from.

I’d like to see the Ochakov used as a full size target.

And with a warhead.

Someone mentioned footage showing the Moskit entering terminal evasion. What is the time index of that?.

Starts from 03:05

Could be Bazalt or Vulcan and it doesn’t look to me like it was snaking. More like pulling up from flying to low and almost hitting the drink. Or to gaining altidued to dive as low as possible to hit the lower above waterline.

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From 1:57 you see the Project 688А “vega” sink. Followed by another vessel getting hit by I have no idea what. And another one by Onyx though that footage is from beginning of september as the reportar mentioned.

Looks like a Double Whammy. P-500 Bazalt & Moskit

Two Moskit’s

Seem the first missile, coming in from slighty over the port bow, fragments and does not explode. Penetrates, parts come out on starboard side. Rather, it is the second missile, coming in from dead ahead, that appears to do the most (visible) damage. Most of the explosion is in the stern area.Is it P-500 Bazalt first, then Moskit?

It actually sank. And rarely life warheads are used. In this case it wasn’either. It’s the unburned fuel from the Moskits that we’re fired from 70 km. of the target.

What’s the source for that. Can’t seem to find nothing about it on balancers ?

INS Kolkata is disappointing as I expected no less than 64 x SAMs. Lets hope atleast the next ship will have a different VLS module. Barak-8 seems like a disaster for the IN ships and its all because of that big mouthed idiot admiral who wanted to pull away everything from Russian ‘influence’ and embrace his western buddies. There was an option available to fit atleast the initial batches of the new ships with 40 Km VL Shtil-I or 9M96 or the 120Km 9M96E2 and install the later on ships with Barak-8 missiles when it was ready. But maybe he/those involved feared that precious business for his/their buddies would be lost if an initial batch order was given for Shtil-I or 9M96. Instead those involved to further their agenda, directly went in for a co-development for Barak-8 with Israel who have no prior experience with proper SAMs and Naval SAMs by completely side-stepping a co-development/lic manufacturing of 120Km 9M96E2.

It was indeed a poor choice.

Redut and Redut-K(Krepost)* would have given Indian navy a far superior bite. Granted the 9M100 missile ain’t ready yet and Redut-K(Krepost) hasn’t been installed on any ship yet.

*In case your wondering whats the difference between Redut and Redut-K. Redut only consists out of 9M100,9M96M and 9M96M2 missiles(or the export versions of them). The Redut-K(Krepost) consists out of 9M100,9M96M/M2’s along with 48N6M/DM’s and 40N6 missiles.(or the export variants)

You see here the model of the export version of Gorshkov with the Redut-K(Krepost)

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Even the VLS Shtil with the 9M317A missile would have been better alternative.

However VLS Shtil was but a paper project in 2007 and so was the 9M317A missile. (Igor Djadhan mentioned VLS Shtil was only tested in 2009 or 2010 and 9M317A only got serious and consistent funding only really 2 years ago. )

Last know specs for the 9M317A missile

http://www.arms-expo.ru/site.xp/055057052124057052049.html

ЗРК “Бук-М3” – дальнейшее развитие комплекса и может быть принят на вооружение в 2009 г. как единый комплекс войсковой ПВО армейского звена. Для эффективного парирования вероятных угроз с воздуха в ближайшие 12-15 лет при его создании используются новые технологии и разработки. Ожидается, что “Бук-М3” будет способен поражать воздушные цели, действующие со скоростью до 3000 м/с на дальностях 2,5-70 км и высотах 0,015-35 км. Зенитный дивизион будет 36 целевых каналов.

The 9M317A missile will see service in 2016 with Buk-M3. And will be incorporated for the navy afterwords.

With co-funding from india this would have been put into service much sooner.

TR are you sure your not confusing Il-112 with IL-214 ? Because the former is a go.

Sorry, you think the EU is going to spend money on the Ukraine? What’s the latest internet-fad acronym for “laughed so hard my appendix burst”?

No. This will most certainly not happen and the EU stands to make a net killing on closer ties with the Ukraine (even now). This will come in the form of financial packages (read: loans… who makes money on a loan, you or the bank?); acquisition of former state-owned enterprises; access to consumer markets; access to natural resources (shale oil/gas, mining, etc.); access to large areas of cheap agricultural land offering astronomical returns; an influx of low-wage but highly skilled labour (both migrating into the EU and working for EU-based companies locally); and so forth.

You got to be joking. As much as I deslike JSR he’s right with this.

Ukriane cannot repay loans or pay market price for gas. . Its education, infrastructure and demographics from past 25 years has degenerated that hardly it can contribute anything.

And as far as this.

access to large areas of cheap agricultural land offering

You think the EU farmers would stand for this ? Or that EU actually needs this ?