A lot of the gains in performance with respect to weight will come from undoing whatever they did to reign in the original missile’s capabilities to MTCR limits – the Russian domestic equivalent has almost double the range IIRC.
Yep, that’s why i’m asking why the scepticism. BrahMos Mini is very much doable by India alone, let alone a joint project.
Gunner wasn’t just to operate the tail gun IIRC. Il-28s used their tail guns to great effect during bombing runs assent against anyone foolish to try to lob a manpad in their ass in Afghan. eason why they tried to field modify tail gun to Hinds in Afghan and gun pod were mounted the other direction
Very impressive if it’s achieved.
Why wouldn’t it be achieved ?
Thanks to both of you.
Hey, Berkut. How many Su-27’s have been modernized to SM standard overal. It only seems there have been so far 64. That seems very high to me. Any help ?
Exactly … Dart, Bomarc, Talos, Navajo, ASMP – excluding Bloodhound which were among first ones in service…
At best Rusia had experience on par with others.
So by others you meant all western countries combined. So in other words as Rii said.
Also Navajo was never in service.
That sounds like a Carlsberg ad… “probably the best beer in the world”. Try a bit of search about Ramjet propulsion. At best Rusia had experience on par with others.
You should take your own advice. Russians have a lot more experiance in ramjet propulsion then anyone else. That’s not only experimental missiles. Or the ones that ended up being cancelled for one reason or another. But also the ones that ended up in service.(4 or 5 if you count 38M2 as a new missile)
!. SM-2 is a bigger missile then either the 9m96E or 9m96E2 missiles. 9m317 missiles kinda are limited to that range by guidance. The new missile for Buk-M3. The 9M317A with active/passive rader allows it to have range of 70 km. The missile also has increased max speed of mach 8. Which if probably if reduced would allow the missile to have higher range if they wanted.
2. Has bigger first stage.
This why.
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If you still don’t get it look up Bora.
the range of the radar is… impressive
More detail if you can …por favor..
Thanks Jinan, I was looking for that exact model.
And yeah, I don’t think “Leader” will end up looking anything as “exotic”.
Maybe, maybe not. But it is one of the proposed destroyers no doubt.
And that looks to me like a new Gorshkov class next to it.
Might be the future destroyer with the RuN.
What is this fairytale ? They have like a halve hull with no funds or expertise to to finish it.
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oh, it’s hotdog.
News on Project Kalina.
http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20140319/188575985/Russian-Navy-Unveils-New-Class-of-Submarines.html
MOSCOW, March 19 (RIA Novosti) – A prospective series of Russia’s new fifth-generation conventional submarine equipped with an advanced air-independent propulsion system will be designated the Kalina-class, the commander of the country’s navy said Wednesday.
“Russia is currently designing a fifth-generation conventional submarine, dubbed Project Kalina, which will be fitted with an air-independent propulsion (AIP) system,” Adm. Viktor Chirkov said.
“Our industry promises to develop this AIP system by 2017 and build the first boat fitted with such a system by 2018,” Chirkov said.
The admiral earlier said that the new AIP system could be initially tested on the only operational Lada-class diesel-electric submarine in service with the navy, the St. Petersburg, which is undergoing sea trials in the Barents Sea after a series of design changes.
Air-independent power plants offer significant advantages over diesel-electric submarines, which must surface regularly to recharge their batteries, and nuclear submarines, which must continually run noisy pumps to cool their reactors.
Submarines with such systems can stay submerged for weeks at a time and are already in operation with a number of navies around the world. The United States has so far not employed the technology, however, in favor of the longer endurance and range of nuclear submarines.
Hopefully they won’t **** it up like Lada class.
It will carry both and 9M96M2. The latter supposedly reaches out to 150km in the domestic variant.
20380 I think will stick to just the domestic variant of the 40km 9M96E.
So wait there are four domestic variants of the 9M96 missiles ? The 9M96, 9M96D, 9m96M and 9m96M2 ? I knew that domestic versions of 9M96 were supposed to reach out to 60 Km and 150 km i mthought they were under the label 9M96, 9M96D.
As to how many missiles are per cell, it is a matter of some debate. I think one cell= 1 9M96. Some folks think it is 4 per cell.
9M100 I think is still rumors and nothing concrete as far as Gorshkov is concerned.
The cell’s look to be around 0,5 meters in diameter if not tad more. I can totally see 4 9M100 fitting in there.