According to a well known test pilot, the thrust from a jet engine is reduced by approx 100 lbs for each 1 degree above ambient. This might not sound a lot but in a vtol situation (where this pilot had his experience) it is cruical.
(ie exhaust gas being taken back into the engine)
it was the Road Star on West College Avenue
No problems – I put some of those aircraft on a thread (just search for datangshan museum) looks like I had better weather as well but the amount of time I had there was about the same. Started off as walk click walk click ended up as run click run click as there is just so much to see and photograph. Mao’s Il18 was not open until I was too far away though but it is an excuse to go back sometime.
APC104,
I went to that museum last year – my pics from the tunnel did not come out too badly if you want a copy of them.
Janie,
you could spend 7 days going to lectures or workshops or any other of the activities on offer and not see a single plane. Perhaps the show needs to be 2 weeks to allow people to see it.
I went for the planes first (as a first time visitor) but might go to a lecture or 2 next time.
Janie,
glad you thought my summary was ok – (I assume you went this year as well) I forgot to mention the daily paper that is produced each day. I was able to bring back 1 for each day and they add to my enjoyment when showing the pics taken. Even after some 5 months after – I still get a buzz when looking at the pics.
Also forgot the seaplane base at Lake Winnebago – a totally different atmosphere and a great place to maybe unwind if the main show gets too much. A 20min boat trip allows good access to aircraft on the water and flights are again possible. The $2 charge for the shuttle bus is well worth it.
I went to Oshkosh this year – on an organised tour by a well known aviation tour operator. They offered 3 tours – a long one which included 6 days at the show + 3 days elsewhere, medium which was the show only 6 days and a short one with just 4 days at the show. We stayed in a motel in Appleton which is about 25 miles north of Oshkosh and travelled down each day in a bus. We tended to leave motel at 08.30 getting to the show about 09:15 depending on traffic. Left show at 18;30 getting back to motel at 19:15ish. There were several places to eat wthin walking distance but most of our group ate at the same place each night – good food and excellent value. If you do not mind a bit less comfort then you can stay at the university of Wisconsin halls of residence. These may / may not have a/c which given it is mid summer is a good idea. Not sure what was available food wise here but would imagine there would be several places to choose from.
As for what to do – well it depends what your interests are – if you like warbirds then you will not be disappointed, same goes for vintage. If you are looking to buy bits for an aircraft or even a new one the trade show is extensive and very helpful. One of our group last year was looking for info on a couple of new types and was given a couple of test flights. The EAA museum is also worth a look as some of the larger exhibits may well be outside and if the weather on 1 day looks dodgy then it does offer shelter. (helicopter flights also go from here)
If you enjoy listening to lectures from a range of interesting people then there is an extensive programe. Same with workshops for the homebuilder – again the range of items covered is extensive.
One thing though – be prepared to walk – to see all the major areas will take a lot of walking.
There is also an airshow each day which does concentrate on aerobatics but there will be some gems as well. The Friday show was probably the best in that the heavy bombers were up. I did notice though that aircraft did not always stay the whole week. Some might only stay a couple of days (esp warbirds)
I thoroughly enjoyed the 6 days at the show but it was a lot of walking – would I do it again – you bet. Take time to study the eaa website – it gives lots of useful info + maps of the show itself. Perhaps make a very rough plan for each day and stick to it – otherwise ‘headless chicken syndrome’ happens.
If you want a flight in either the tri-motor or helicopter then book these early as the waiting times can be long (esp for helicopter as only room for 2 pax)
Logged over 3500 reg’s + took 2500+ pics so have got a good record of what was there but it is impossible to see everything. With 6 operational areas (2 concrete runways & 3 grass runways + seaplane base)
If there is any more info I can help with then let me know.
A bit of Bond trivia
Which well known test pilot appeared in a Bond Film.
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ANS : Peter Twiss in ‘From Russia with Love’ – Peter was Chief Test Pilot for Fairey Aviation but when that was sold to Westland he moved to Fairey Marine and they provided the boats for the chase across the lake. (actually a scottish loch) and he was one of the boat drivers. I was lucky enough to hear him talk last evening about his career and particularly the FD2.
He brought a few slides which included some of the boats and a very young Mr Connery.
A bit of Bond trivia
Which well known test pilot appeared in a Bond Film.
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ANS : Peter Twiss in ‘From Russia with Love’ – Peter was Chief Test Pilot for Fairey Aviation but when that was sold to Westland he moved to Fairey Marine and they provided the boats for the chase across the lake. (actually a scottish loch) and he was one of the boat drivers. I was lucky enough to hear him talk last evening about his career and particularly the FD2.
He brought a few slides which included some of the boats and a very young Mr Connery.
James,
thanks for the comment – not sure but it does look possible, then again it could just have come back from a lease. There is a lot of aircraft swopping going between flyDba, Hapag Lloyd, Germania & Air Berlin (Fk100;s mainly) so it could be moving to or returning from one of those.
The ‘star’ was the AN12 – very nice to see one active but emission control is not its strong point. The Libyan Corvette was nice to photograph but I had first seen it at LHR in 1985!
Equipment used was Canon 20D + 100-400IS lens
no – saw / read no reviews at all. I want to form my own opinion of a film rather than someone elses hence my disappontment at it in general. The gadgets / Q / tongue in cheek humour are what makes a Bond film a Bond film and this was sadly lacking in all respects.
It was just another mediocre action film – nothing special at all.
no – saw / read no reviews at all. I want to form my own opinion of a film rather than someone elses hence my disappontment at it in general. The gadgets / Q / tongue in cheek humour are what makes a Bond film a Bond film and this was sadly lacking in all respects.
It was just another mediocre action film – nothing special at all.
How about Phil Conduit ‘I am innocent’ 🙂
bring-it-on,
‘bashing’ leahy as an employee of airbus is a bash towards airbus. Have senior management ever censored his comments ?
Am sure pleanty of boeing officials have made equally ‘foot in mouth’ comments yet seem to go unnoticed/ignored here.
Continued anti airbus / boeing posts are very immature these days. (back on the ignore list for someone)
Also saw the Bond film – thought it was poor. None of the things that make a Bond film a Bond film were there. No ‘Q’, no gadgets, little humour. Story was weak and disjointed. Best ‘chase’ was early on and the poker game went on way too long.
Change the characters names and it would have just been another mediocre action film.
Would I see it again – no. Will I see another with DC as Bond – no
barrythemod – can I bill you 😉