Walter Koenig had a part in Babylon 5

Steve,

don’t forget the Mandarin Airlines MD11 at HKG – although caused by wind shear (the new HK is wll know for it) it would still count as an accident with lives lost. Fed Ex have also lost a couple as well but freight is already dead. Landing accidents seem to be common as IIRC the tail / rudder are on the small side for the size of aircraft with the potential to run out of control authority in harsh conditions.

Have flown on a Laker DC10 (G-AZZC) PMI-LGW 1982 + American LGW-DFW-LGW + DFW-ORD-Toronto + NW DC10 (the 30’s series are ex Swissair) SEA-MSP + Washington – AMS, Caledonian L1011 LGW-Lyon, BA L1011 LHR-CDG, Delta L1011 MIA-ATL.

Ironic that the place where so many Londoners sought refuge during WW2 should become a place of death and destruction last week.

Let us also not forget the other 150+ people who got on trains recently and did not survive the journey as a result of a tragic accident rather than a deliberate action
(3 train crash in Pakistan)

Andy,

not sure there is a cure – muslim leaders must be worried that their religion is being used as justification for such acts but seem powerless to stop fanatics from doing so.
Fortunatley most westerners realise that it is a small number of people who are hell bent on causing terror and who are willing to die for it.

Grey Area,

am aware of Abu Hamza currently being held in jail but no doubt there are others like him willing to continue spreading hate messages both here and abroad.

Steve,

for racist read realist – we all know that the vast majority of UK and worldwide muslims condemn and deplored these acts, yet the fact remains that they were muslims rather than any other religion.

Paul… your opinions are valuable, but please express them without indulging in racial/religious/cultural stereotyping.

Thanks

Grey Area
Moderator

We are a very tolerant society in general – we let almost anybody in, feed them, house them, educate them and some repay us by spreading messages of hate against the west – sorry but enough is enough. We must introduce far stricter controls on who we let into the UK – the fanatics who incite this hatred are not invisible and deport those already here. Abu Hamza is one such fanatic who, because of our tolerance and freedoms is allowed to preach a message inciting a tiny minority to try and destroy those freedoms.