sounds like a great idea ! I’d be in for a tenner.

nice pics ! the museum is great! well worth a visiit…. good to see the canberra getting love!
the aero’s all look very nice indeed – especially the vulcan !!!! :diablo: :diablo: :diablo: 🙂 :rolleyes: 😉 😉 😉

nice pics.
is there anything too see indoors there? do they have any of the wind tunnel models/radar sig models on display??

The best help the new owner could get is from someone who knows the structure of these aircraft – the problem is a proper inspection will be simply too dangerous.

I admire your ‘never say die’ attitude – really I do…I spent years working on a vulcan outside trying to ‘stop the rot’ and It hurts to think of another one being destroyed.

I also know what these aircraft look like on the inside…
The engineering explanation for the landing gear being shot is this –
BIG the main gear may be, but HEAVY it isn’t… dowty designed the stalky main leg to ease clearance to load the large payload the vulcans would be intended to carry, the long legs would need to use lightweight materials to allow this design feature to be feasible..
the material now giving trouble to all preserved outdoors vulcans is the aluminium alloy used on the sliding member of the main leg – a DTD5044 alum alloy extrusion. This stuff corrodes like hell once the protective coating has worn away….. look at most vulcans left and you will find heavy oxidisation, even exfoliation on the sliders…
This can be tolerated on a static A/C to a degree as the slider is not pressurised, however, if left un-treated corrosion will render the aircraft unsafe because the slider takes the majority of the loading when parked up.
not only has this corrosion been left alone on 391, the slider has basically dis-appeared. Having seen close-ups of the metal plates holding the aircraft up I really hope that nobody gets hurt if a dismantling operation is undertaken….
My photoshop pictures may be ‘a little lacking’ but I think the best advice would be to get real very quickly and save all the aircraft he can – the airframe simply wont take disassembly or re-assembly. (its not sitting on a taxiway at duxford guys…)

The only time a full stripdown and re-build has been done is when the RAF moved ‘318 to Hendon (318 was just out of service at scampton, in a hangar and with all GSE that the RAF had for vulcans then, that all went in the bin years ago…)

a corroded vulcan on grass that cant be towed anywhere (and no – it cannot be towed) is not going to come apart neatly, even with army or airforce help…

as for the new owner, I wish him all the luck in the world, and I hope he finds a good compromise between scrapping his vulcan or paying that ‘businessman’ any more land rent…

😎 I think the chap could still get something for his money….

how about if he cut the nose off in the usual manner, (aft of pressure bulkhead)
got the rest on its belly, (this will probably happen courtesy of gravity anyway) then cut the forward part of the fuselage off fore of front bomb bay spar and outwards to the wing roots (he could then get that bit on a single low loader ((longways))).

I would think to re-assemble just the nose and fwd fuselage together is not beyond the realms of possibility, and having the whole thing projecting from out the side of his pub would certainly make for an interesting ‘feature’…

hmm might have to draw a picture…. :rolleyes:

whatever he does, the gear is all shot, the whole structure wont tolerate re-assembly and the cockpit isn’t gonna be much for a resto job.

I reckon he could pump the nose/cockpit full of waxoil and seal it up, get the fin off too and have on display with an engine…

he’s already forked out 15K so any more to shut 2/3 lanes & take lamp posts down isn’t really on, so I think he’ll have to leave the centre section & wings for the scrappy.

would be good to get more than just the cockpit for that money……

(my 2p on the previous owner – Businessman he may be, but honest he isn’t – there was virtually no description on that auction page… the landlord SHOULD have looked first but the previous owner SHOULD have been more honest – He is the one we should be slating,) If the landlord can get something for his money (see above!) I for one will be ‘getting one in’ round his boozer…. 😉